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Our only chance is if the industry continues to reject the draft icop & force the AA to re-engage the HSE as they could not proceed with it in its current form.

 

 I predict that the push back from the industry will place them in a difficult position though, as if they do as the HSE want, against the current weight of opinion, then they will cease being the voice of arboriculture in the UK.

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Who is going to carry the can if say there is an accident due directly to the inherent dangers of 2 rope working after an employed climber has expressed his concerns with it yet the employer or supervisor has over ruled and said you must use a 2nd line? Seems you could be damned if you do, damned if you don't.

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For example.... a very real risk. Modern friction devices such as the Zigzag and Spiderjack are definitely not suited to having another line in close proximity. A sudden loss of friction/grip on a mainline resulting from contact with the second line could easily have catastrophic consequences.

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1 hour ago, Mark Bolam said:

Would the HSE prosecute themselves?

Has been known to happen (investigation rather than prosecution.)  One of the experimental test labs was censured...

 

WWW.IOSHMAGAZINE.COM

The HSE employee was testing a prototype hydrogen storage vessel on 4 October 2016 when the incident happened...

 

 

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2 hours ago, Marc Lewis said:

Who is going to carry the can if say there is an accident due directly to the inherent dangers of 2 rope working after an employed climber has expressed his concerns with it yet the employer or supervisor has over ruled and said you must use a 2nd line? Seems you could be damned if you do, damned if you don't.

I guess if this goes ahead and there is an accident caused by 2 ropes and a court case found 2 ropes responsible HSE might have to change the guidance. That process could take years of course.

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