Facebook video. Graphic accident

[skyhuck]

9 hours ago, Haironyourchest said:

too much of an angle to spike up,

Really??

[Khriss]

15 hours ago, Joe Newton said:

This is part of the problem. Amateurs ( coming on Arbtalk ) commenting on how a job should be done. 

Fixed at no cost k

[peds]

34 minutes ago, skyhuck said:

Really??

We had a go at spiking up an overhanging pole on our CS38. Great fun! 

[Cheesy pete]

11 hours ago, Haironyourchest said:

And your comment would prevent you from working on any of the sites under my control. I don't employ presumptuous people.

wouldn't want to !  

11 hours ago, Haironyourchest said:

 

 

 

[Jcarbor]

we all cut corners , and your not telling me you do every thing by the book ???
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Method statement plus risk assessment, if owt changes on the job re-evaluate and draw up a new plan that is safe and the agreeable to all on site.

[monkeybusiness]

16 hours ago, Jcarbor said:

We do a lot of highways and utility work, if that had been my site I would Have put a 25 metre tracked MEWP on it, that team of lads have been let down by their management team. Shite tall thin co dominent stems like that cry out MEWP.

Without seeing the site in person I think this is a bit of a sweeping statement (unless you do actually have personal experience of this very worksite). 

MEWPs are great, but they aren't the right tool for every job. There might not be the access for one. The ground conditions might not be suitable to set one up. There might be restrictions in place regarding their use because of the proximity to the overhead network. 

From the vid, the tree looks perfectly climbable. I'm going to assume there is a decent clear drop zone (from the fact the guy is going for a big fell), so no rigging required. For all we know the management team have sent out a trained, competent workforce with the correct kit to undertake what appears to be a relatively straight forward removal from a rope and harness. 

You may be correct that the management are at fault, but if the climber is trained and deemed competent by a recognised awarding body, and he hasn't been forced to do what he did then I can't really see the blame lying with anybody other than the climber (with the possible exception of a team leader if there was one on site more senior than the cutter himself - they should have instructed a different approach IMO).    

[Haironyourchest]

 

Couple of vids of ratchet straps there. Second one is what I was talking about. First one shows the effectiveness at preventing splitting, its right near the end of the vid.

[Pete Mctree]

8 minutes ago, Haironyourchest said:

 

Couple of vids of ratchet straps there. Second one is what I was talking about. First one shows the effectiveness at preventing splitting, its right near the end of the vid.

I use ratchet straps in exceptional circumstances and they do help (I have even used chain in some occasions). Usually on defective trees or those that I am going to pull hard and fast I.e. With a big forestry winch. It is not something I do on a run of the mill tree like the one in the original post. 

The cutting on the first video was a fail - he was not allowed to cut the tree up before it was pulled - they created that split by pre loading.

[tree-fancier123]

If its too small for a ratchet strap, would a Jubilee clip suffice?

[MattyF]

Second vid cries mewp for me , totally agree on the first vid pete