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I get it and completely understand , then I read it through again, and whopper choppa was referring to for being sold to.flip flops . Im referring to log splitters cooking themselves. See you've answered yourself decent size oil reservoir, most sub ten ton diggers and log splitters dont have that, so all the machinery ive brought has oil coolers fitted from factory standard

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To an extent yes but a car that is post 1975 manufacture has to pass a visual smoke test. In fact it is likely the burning of wood will be made more expensive. We already see that the cost of a chimney lining is often more expensive than the stove, add to that a mandatory, annual chimney clean and inspection by a HETAS approved chimney sweep (and just like at an MOT he will refuse to sweep a stove-chimney combo that doesn't have certification). Next will be the requirement to fit an electrostatic filter, just like cars having catalytic converters, for a couple of thousand pounds. This will add to the electricity bill like an old incandescent light left on permanently. Apart from the cost I would have one. Then it could be illegal to sell a house with non compliant chimneys or stoves, already the case in Denmark, cheaper to dump the stove and remove the chimney. I expect HETAS requirements have already caused people to get out of selling firewood. The thing is before the internet air pollution in towns only measured SO2, NO2 and CO, then about 5 years later particulates came into the frame and were measured by how much they greyed filter paper, then came the laser particulates counters and PM10 were first mentioned but it was realised the hairs in nostrils trapped the bigger bits so it was PM2.5 that were targeted. Now we have the situation where the advertising standards agency have (rightly) banned advertisements by stove manufacturers saying that modern stoves emit less particulates if burning dry wood, true but they didn't provide proof.

I built a power pack a few years ago to run log splitters, it has a 60litre tank and runs 15/30 suto. I was worried oil getting hot so I fitted a cheap hot water pipe thermostat and cable tied it to ram to keep an eye on it runs at around 40-50 deg c depends how hot day is.

With the paint peeling and all that rust it could be in the same class as a Land Rover😳

Can't ban open fires unless you are willing to spend, lets say £2k in every house that has one to remove it and the chimney (to prevent it being opened up again after), and redecorate (also to include those with wood burners fitted to prevent them being taken out and an open fire being used instead). Easier to control the sale of new burner... though they could of course encourage installing a more efficient stove instead of an open fire somehow. The logic kind of applies to cars - not banning older less efficient vehicles but any new ones have to meet mre stringent minimum standards

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As you wish. Yes oil does get hot and may require oil coolers but the way it gets hot is as I explained. My tractor based grapple loader ran from 1983 to present with no oil cooler because the duty cycle coupled with a well sized reservoir meant the oil never got above blood temperature.

There is something political going on as technically all this "ban wood burners" doesn't make sense. Why would you not control open fires but you would ban older but cleaner wood burners? Why rather than trying to ban anything would you not look at reducing the particulate emissions? It is not like there are no products out there that do that. A very brief google get you: The ePURO, filter for wood burning stoves - Schiedel Chimney Systems Ltd. SHOP.SCHIEDEL.COM The ePURO, filter for wood burning stoves - The fine dust filter for wood-burning appliances. Electrostatic fine dust separator for effectively reducing flue gas particles in wood-burning... If you applied the same logic the diesel and petrol engine would have been banned may years ago rather than improving their design to reduce emissions!

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That's a bit of a different argument, personally I would agree as my boiler is 3 times more expensive. But with a world of fwits, DEFRA regulations are realistically the only way you'll stop idiots or at the very least financially forcing them to fit a certified fire as a starting point, firewood education has achieved nothing other than a busted flush. Maybe change the regs to say, if the nearest two neighbour is more than 50m of you it's fine to use whatever you want.

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??????? let's leave it here fella, you totally misunderstand me, I would rip up the all stove regs if I had my way.

Mostly disagreeing with you. Because you want everyone else to be mandated to be efficient, clean burning and ecological by wasting money on more pointless R&D to achieve something that's not possible, yet your happy to not be efficient, pollute and stay warm. The fire is about as efficient as it'll ever be, there will never be much more to gain and you have to design for the absolute dumbest person running a glorified pressure cooker. Backboilers aren't going to meet DEFRA regs

I can never work out if you are agreeing or disagreeing or talking about something entirely different? As I said 5 hours ago I would be very happy with existing back boiler stove system that was properly setup with many of the safety features above. My understanding is there are two criticisms against back boiler stoves: - efficiency and clean smoke. current regs are pushing higher efficiency wood stoves that burn fast and hard. Introducing cold(er) water into a stove potentially cools it down which makes this hard to achieve. Personally I'm less concerned about efficiency and cleanliness because I have masses of dry wood and live in the sticks. If there isn't the right mixer value, more thinking is required. - safety. there is a risk that a system will either pressurize, boil if vented or run dry and pipes crack. Again I think all of this is possible to overcome with the right design and safety features. The bigger log central heating systems can dump water, pressure, shut the air right down and some can even extinguish the fire totally. I think the current industry, building regs, stove installers and plumbers etc, are being overly safety conscious and just taking the path of least resistance to push everyone onto leccy.

We had two crapuchi diggers that cooked rams, two log splitter that weeped oil-using it to much . The only think thats ever survived continually being used is machines fitted with a hydraulic oil cooler , stops rams, valve blocks and o rings from weeping

A loading valve won't realistically cope with such a small volume of a stove, I've got something like 100l of water in a 1/2ton boiler and 1500l tank fail-safe as a loading valve has a safety thermostat that just allows it to circulate without power. You're average house with maybe 150l central heating system just isn't going to handle it. The simplest solution is the one that's used by banning them, r&d isn't going to make any difference.

Thanks, that's very helpful and gives me a rough idea of logistics.

Fascinating, but I still behind my original assertion. I wish there was more R&D into modern stoves that can also heat water safely without the water cooling the stove down. As you know eco angus do this by controlling the burn with a fan, mix valves to control the return temperature and various safety features to stop overheating or excess pressure. Its not rocket science. I don't think pushing everyone onto electric is a good idea.

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I'm waterproof, I dont wear jackets. They tend to make you sweat and then your soaked through anyway.