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Cocconut oil ! ok you may smell like a Bounty bar but better than a gone off burger after you've covered yourself in mayo !!!

Ok eddystihl here is the part number for the "wrap handle" felling spike kit 576 87 30-02. Do get your dealer to check that number before ordering just in case something has changed or I have made a mistake !

Look up the part number on IPL and order from local dealer. They are a very good arrangement as they hold the saw very well when you are perched on a steep ditch etc ! but don't catch up on snedding as they sit in well.

I'm told to expect mine in about 4 weeks, not sure on the 565 which looks interesting - the caps seem to be removable ..... so if it's the same as the 365 XT maybe a "easy" conversion to 572 ? As for a old style ported 372 keeping up with stock 70cc saw I would be pretty dissapointed if the ported saw didn't keep up with it !

Well I don't have any theories only stating things as I find them with regards to my saws running which on the whole I find they do a very good job at doing ! Eddy are you sure about the carb issue for 070/090 ? I have a reasonable understanding of them and have never seen more than one part number for the Tillitson HS (?) carb which was fitted from day one of the Contra etc. ?

The 572 has by all accounts had 4 different "set" ups before it's launch , info from folk involved in testing out in the US but I don't suppose we will ever know ! I asked a couple of years ago why the 576 didn't have the "plug in" feature and was told that an updated version would have ,but, things moved on and I see the 576 and 372 XT are now gone from our model line up. I just did as search for fault codes and how to use Husqvarna AT and I'm sure I ended up downloading from Cdn Husqvarna site. Look last night as I was making the post but it's just the pdf no particular info.

Eddy I found a list of codes on I think the CDN Husqvarna site but I will check back , it was a pdf down load and proved interesting. It gives a full explanation on how the system works i.e. fuel numbers and on of the most common "faults" with the magnetic sensors. If you pm me I'll try to send it to you if you want ? I did a search of "husqvarna fault codes" and "how to read / use Husqvarna AT diagnostics" I did not do a good job of explaining myself with regards to the running rich thing I should have said I expected a AT to run rich due to the AT over compensating unlike a nonAT saw needing as a rule to be richened up. I made the remarks about the little quirk my 560 has to see if anyone else has noticed any other little things, not a disscusion on how well a saw runs but to draw a conversation on how a well used day to day AT saw runs and that conversation gives us all a better understanding of this "new" type of saw as like it or not it's just how it is going to be from now on !! My understanding is that the 572 is in it's 4th generation of software before launch so maybe this conversation will be null and void soon ?? Here is to "perfect" running .....

Now a few points to clearup, I would agree with you that the larger airfilter should cause the 560 to run rich as it would by doing the same on a non AT without any adjustment to the H needle saw but the AT seems to just cope fine . My comment about it seeming to be looking for fuel only happens after a long hard cut and if it happens it's for a split second as the cut is finished and throttle released and as I said "it seems to be looking" It has just been a odd little thing for the last 3 yrs ! When I said syncing I would have been better to use the word mapping as I wonder if the 562 is slightly changed in it's set up , a trip to the ipl in order ! I plugged my 560 after changing air filter and doing muffler mod and as you found nothing to report but having down the same with several others that had come in for repair I found it interesting on a couple of saws that had serious fault codes were still running so as has been noted in other threads the very simple AT can almost mask a serious problem . I have seen a 576 that had never had the air filter cleaned and only stopped and died when part of the filter was sucked in and the same guy also killed a 550 in the same way, it died before the filter imploded. He said he didn't know you had to clean them !! Both in the same week.

This is what I was saying, release throttle and it is a little confused . During WOT is ok and the "looking for fuel" only happens for a very short time. I have the diagnostics on my laptop and it's interesting to see what error codes pop up ! One of the companys I cut for are also a Husqvarna dealer so had a chance to get to know the system . Not the same on the 562 so the AT must in sync with the larger ( increased airflow ) airfilter.My two ported 562's have no issues. Not a problem on the 576, change to larger airfilter and US spec muffler and AT just takes it in it's stride and by all accounts the 572 will be a lot "smarter" I mentioned the "looking for fuel" as it's interesting to see what peoples accounts of these saws are, a few years in and a few changes to carb and software and we are still learning .....

I would suggest someone missed a meeting whilst thrashing out what was required between bearing supplier (SKF I'm told ?) and Husqvarna on the early ones ? and perhaps someone in design had a little rethink on the mapping later on ? I don't know about them using "much" less fuel, less yes but of course going over the top on oil i.e. 40-1 etc can also cause heat retention ? Without doubt the cooling slot added in 16 is a huge improvement along with fully syth oil, add in the gutted muffler , however, on the 560 adding the 562 type air filter seems to sometimes leave the saw "looking" for fuel. On long duration cuts it would seem to be looking for a little more on the over run and this leads me on to my guess that the 562 has a revised map on the chip as I don't get that "feeling" . I don't mean it's running lean but I suspect not far off !

I agree and the cooling slots thar appeared in '16 make a big differance, I did a little "test" and I think it was about 3/4 degrees cooler if I recall correctly.

I asked since I find that the "5" saws do need the best fully synth oil to run at their best never mind to make them last. I know this has been covered many times before but no harm in reinforcing a point ! And your 560's life span would tend to support that also. On the posts about saws failing after having new top ends fitted, over here the importer would replace crankcase and top end if the all to common crank bearing failure on early saws occured so you more or less got a brand new saw.

Is your point that good quality oil is the answer ?

Well if monkey jiz and fanny batter is all out of stock you could try anti-freeze / summer coolant ? same thing ? that will" swell things nicely" and wont evaporate. I use it on axe heads. Gave up on Hilfts years ago and just double stack poly/plastic wedges although do still have a hilift in the kit just in case, old habits die hard !

No reply from the OP on this, but , there was a reply from another member stating which may seem an to have been a STBO reply but the guy was just trying to help and I suspect english is not their first tounge. The point he was making about oil for these "5"s is very correct.So stating the obvious sometimes is the answer ? I suspect in this case after "a good few years" the saw has done it's work.

Is it oiling ? If the worm gear is worn / damaged it can still oil a little and seem ok until you take off the bar and run without the side cover and see if all is ok i.e. a good stream of oil !

What ever you are "recommended" you will have to be able to sharpen it, so, how are you on that front ? What are you cutting ? I've used square ground and I can file that by hand but the timber has to be clean - moss covered dusty stuff will just take the edge. Square is with out any question best machine done. In support of Skyland the X-cut seems to be in demand at least here.

I'm afraid I agree with Sveriges, you have changed the airfilter and cleaned up all you can without going into the carb. I've found on dirty carbs on these it just gets hard to start and not keen to run at tickover and they seem to take a serious amount of cleaning i.e. striping maybe two three times including the "needle" module to clean trough with carb cleaner etc. I suspect if pluged in you would be seeing the "partial sieze" error codes 13 and 17 if I remember ?

NFG if you re-read my post you will see I am suggesting that anyone interested in skip/semi skip chain vist Madsens site and read up on application of such chain not order ! It is a very comprehensive read. We all know Rob stocks skip etc. As I am in Europe ( and will be after '19) I am very aware of what it costs to get gear from US/CDN suppliers although if it's the only way to get the gear you want in my case my saws then you just have to put up with it, here we can get 150 euro of goods before tax and USPS is far more affordable than our post i.e. a 372 XP will cost $110 from Oregon via airmail which I don't think is bad value ?

Anyone thinking about "skip" or "semi-skip" chain should really visit the Madsens saw shop site and have a little read up on skip chain. It only really starts to work on bars 28" and over, although Rob D now sells a extreme skip for milling ( looks like it got a deal for bulk tooth removal at the local dentist !!) which works very well but I assume it is how its cutting i.e. with the grain. I did try some semi c on a zipped 390 XP on a 30" and it was not great as it felt like I was holding the saw back with a dull chain. I had very bad problems some years ago with my elbows ( two days on a trolley in A&E with IV) and was told to find another job as I wouldnt climb again full time...it took about a year to get back on form and I dont climb unless its the only way ! I take a supplement " Revive" which has helped a great deal with my joints including the right hand which has bad knuckles from years of "only jessies use decomp !" saw starting.

The guy I use to do my work saws did a video of his 346 with a 32" bar just to see how it ran and the only drawback was that really the oiler was not upto it ! Now we know that could not happen every day and would any sensible person want to but no reason why a well done 346 in the hands of a person able to sharpen should not run a 20" well if required ? so a 18" would be a bit of a weapon. A 550 will run a 18" 3/8 in good order if you only have a few "bigger" ones to do, I do keep thinking of having one done..... This question really is going back to the reason "ported"saws came about smaller/lighter saw = bigger power as has been disscused in a thread a couple of weeks ago, this is a very good example of making life as easy as possible and indeed prolonging your working ability ?

I run several "ported" saws -562's,372,375,385,390and 394 and anything else I use has at least gutted muffler and if avalible bigger air filter. Now why run them ? it comes down to a couple of reasons, at my age I want the lightest and most powerful package I can get and also working with harvester on a regular basis when they are pulling in a tree for me I want it to go as fast as possible to prevent any mishaps , momentum is your friend ! same for winching. With regard to emissions I would have thought that although it is taking more fuel the air/fuel mix is more efficient if you expand the argument about cutting faster then you are next to the saw for less time ? As for the reliablity I've not had any unusual problems. Your average Canadian / American "faller" only expects to get a season from a saw then this years becomes the spare and onto the new. I'm getting much mre than that !! I have my saws done in the US just as I want them, have tried a few builders and have settled on one for the last few years.

Not much wonder the bars are good they are Tsu's just "badged" Echo.

I always have a little laugh about sweeping statements about new models, although there were without any question problems with both Stihl and Husqvarna I think both have taken on board the lessons that they needed to. The 572 has gone through 4/5 versions before being released so I would like to think thats pretty well "field tested" but is it "idiot" tested ? we all know of folk that should perhaps be taught a little more about maintaning saws etc. This not a problem only in the chainsaw world - ask any of your pals about new vehicles and I know that you will hear the same story... If you look back at any thread about saws you will always find another sweeping statement about how the "...." model was the best ever made I think that should really read it's the model we know more about ? And again in a fairly short time what we are knocking now will be the "best " I have had/have 3x550 1x560 and 3x562 - 2x 550 gave problems, the 560 was rebuilt twice under warranty and 1x 562 gave up it's crank bearings. So would I buy a "new" Husqvarna ? in a heart beat because Husqvarna covered all problems without question and despite those problems I still find my days work is easier with those saws. Merry Christmas everyone !

572 should be in the shops so to speak "spring" 18 price in euros 1260 incl Vat RRP , that price as it starts at with 20" bar I may be out by around 20ish euros as I was only listening to the main 1200 figure ! By then it's been out and in Austria, Poland and the Swiss markets for a fair time so should have heard of any problems ?