Vespasian

I doubt one hatchet will be much different than another,.. get whats easiest to hand and keep it sharp...

At least we can agree on something....

Oh, just because I think the story is made up don't mean I don't believe its a good story... Or that a lesson or message might not be garnered form it.... Only what I might take from the story might not be what you take.. for me the story is about what one must accept if one believes in the strength of their convictions.. For instance, if you believe something to be wrong, you aught be willing to stand up and be counted and defend what you believe in, and say its wrong.... even if you suffer for doing it, sometimes even to the point of losing ones life in the act of fighting for what is right ... thats what Jesus was doin on that cross.. To be, or not to be: that is the question: Whether ’tis nobler in the mind to suffer The slings and arrows of outrageous fortune, Or to take arms against a sea of troubles, And by opposing end them? To die: to sleep; Methinks shakespear put it better than I ever can..

Errr you got it wrong.. during the first century a messianic movement spread like wildfire through the Jewish community in Judea... They expected his arrival at any moment.. hence the sell your belongs and care not for the morrow.. Well he didn't turn up did he, instead of a mighty King they got a mighty good hiding from the Romans... Some of these Jews while awaiting this Messiah even believed they'd been contacted through revelation and spoken to this Massiah.. Its this sort of thing that later got translated into a conversation with a real living human being.. even gave the fella a backstory to fill in the missing biograthy.. In a nutshell, the story of the evolution of christianity..

Well it ain't a secret I said I did the odd tree, and when I joined this forum it got me to thinkin of doin it a bit more, and doin it right.. Went out this spring and got myself a crap load of gear to climb with.. used to just climb freestyle see... Only thing is I haven't got is a chipper, leastways one thats any use... I only want to do tree's here an there.. I've no intention of goin into it full-time... In fact I did a tree job today, chopped a big limb off a tree not far from that pub you did a job on earlier in the year.. the one in Ringly. I'd forgot how scary it is climbing up a tree in the rain, but then I thought of you lot, if a bunch of wossies can do it, so can I LOL..

Not bad for hot off the press... Now were was I?.... Yes, rooting a myth into the real world.... I'll set the story in the early first century.. who was whom at the time?... Pontius Pilate was knockin about, we'll include him in our fable.... Its not rocket science figuring people would do that, apparently it was common practice at the time.... They're called foundation myths... roots a new idea into the past to give the tale some credibility...

As an advert it certainly worked on me, I this saw some months back and next time I was in Seddons went an bought one of those impact blocks... Not even used it yet..... still, it looks the dogs B******s I even bought one those Captain Hooks, somethin else I haven't had the pleasure of usin yet....

Well I'm talking about the chain of events, there once was a man called ? he travelled far and wide.. during his travels he did this that and the other.. Just because it was written down don't make it true..... As to parables, I expect the whole thing is nothing but one parable layered over another... none of it true, none of it ever happening...

You're presuming the authors who wrote the new testament are passing on facts.. Richard Carrier. Google, utube or buy a book.. as someone who's spent years on the subject I'd suggest his theory is right on the money...

If its hard then why not come over to our side, make your life easier all round.. Come on WRSNI, come on over to the dark side:thumbup1:

Why would one follow the other...... if science did prove all those things, then all it would do is prove all of those things... It wouldn't stop one being an atheist.... it would just explain why people might become religious would it not?.. And, what is being miserable to with anything?...

BigJ I believe that many people are religious as they are unable to reconcile the nature of human existence. It is short, pointless and for many, needlessly cruel. Acceptance of that fact won't necessarily make you any happier, but it will at least be realistic! A bit bleak but true none the less......

Just watched a good vid explaining Brexit and Trump... [ame] [/ame]

I wonder if a pill might be developed, you know, sort if you take it. You find you never ever once again stress over the sexual orientation of others?....

Would you do likewise?.. for one reason or the other people are born the way they are.. given the opportunity would you so much as change your name? I doubt it, like your sexual orientation, its become part of who you are...

Just a thought concerning your opinion on religion, you suggest the true meaning has been lost through translation... So, what was the true meaning?... A guess will do!!!..

Joking aside, how in hells bells you lot want to go out choppion tree's in winter is beyond me..

Spot on, agree with every word he said... And by the way, I wondered about this fake news story, never expected it was in regards the Alt Right Media... By the way, I'm a fan of lots of their sites... and I might mention a fan of those on the left... Secular talk for my leftest viewing, Alex Jones for a flavour of the right.. only you got to be careful with info wars, Alex gets carried away with himself most days...

Voj karabiner's are handy too. " Tie in as best you can" you might want to look that up before you use it. Look sunshine, the fella wanted to climb a tree and get his toy back. he's not asking for advice on climbing K2.... And whats this about pointing out a spelling mistake, anyone reading what I wrote would know what the hell it was I was talking about, you damned spelling Nazi...

Yea here an there I suffer the guilty pleasure of imagining myself with an older woman... but being celibate for more years than I like to admit I imagine I wouldn't get my belt unbuckled before it was all done an dusted... Merkel though, yep, rather go the whole hog an slice it off as sleep with that vile cow...

The Magician's Nephew, C.S Lewis - Hillary Clinton was the Ice Queen, and Trump is Aslan you see - his famous hair represents the lion's mane, and his birth chart has Leo rising on the ascendant. But Hillary made a grave mistake when she spoke the DEPLORABLE WORD! Eerrrm well that goes well, though I don't read CS Lewis, being an Atheist, I've put him on my list of heretics I don't read.... Though looking for a vid to post up for a laugh regarding Trump and his obvious divinity, I found this.. [ame] [/ame]

Its been a year of hero's and villains.. First the villains of Brexit. Boris Johnson, the black prince. Nigel Farage, the ill formed and half made villain of Richard the Third, and a population half made of traitors..... Redeemed only by the election of the only true hero of our day.. Donald J Trump.... From laughing stock to superhero in the space of six shining months..... I was down, Trump picked me up, .... Trump is a Hero more than a king.. A Hercules's more than a Christ, a man so little esteemed he was laughed at and ridiculed for havin the effrontery to run.... Yet here he is, King of the World..... Destroyer of the Ice Queen... You can't get a better story than this, or a hero story of its kind in this day an age... All Hail Trump, and his American kingdom....... and dammed this once fair kingdom of our own, this noble seat of Mars infested with 17 million Smegals...

Yes, high academic expectations seems to be a burden too far for these children... very sad... Still lets compare the rational of what suicide means in one culture with another... Higher IQ, suicide in regards the search for knowledge.. Low IQ culture, suicide by way a suicide vest... in regards a belief in a God.... Which culture is evolving, which is retarded ?.......

Well I'm dealing in facts.. Jews and Asians have the highest IQ closely followed by Europeans... There might be a correlation between acting on feeling with a lower IQ as apposed to acting on rational thought for the higher IQ individual.. Individual or nationality, same thing really, for instance, Australia has lower IQ percentage wise than Britain... shipping all our criminals out there has had an effect on their overall IQ scores.... Theres always the argument about environment as opposed to natural ability.. lack of education lowering the average IQ... but, are we putting the horse before the cart??....... Back to my point, a man acting on feelings is more likely to turn to violence than a man acting on rational thought.... considering their average IQ, then is it any wonder these people go about blowing up all an sundry.. is it any wonder they'll believe in religious nonsense long after everyone else has thrown that rubbish in the dustbin of history..

I think you'll find the reason behind the so called aggressive nature of the new atheists is to do with your point about Muslims.... another point to bear in mind is IQ, the average IQ of muslims is about 70.. basically we're dealing with a bunch of retards...