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Thanks Gary and going by your Avatar you got good company?he is just past 12 weeks old now and I can tell he is going to be a great little dg and a fab worker,he is fearless and the signs are very positive so I will be looking forward to when the training gets more serious but that’s a way of At mo,just basics at mo.

Hi All well it’s been a couple of weeks now since had my new Sprocker Pup”Weaver” and he is coming on really well,he has been with me every day at work for 3 weeks now and had his second jab last Tuesday so I have been able to let him out and about at work over the last few days.firstly though just want to mention last week and fire works and dogs and animals in general. we had a few going off way before bonfire night/November 5th and I know a lot of people’s dogs are close to having heart attacks and it can’t be nice seeing your dog cowering under the nearest chair,settee or just barking all night. so it was a good opportunity to see how weaver reacted to all the loud bangs and screeches and I must say he is fearless and didn’t bat an eyelid and just ran and played around the garden. like I said he has been with me in the truck for the last 3 weeks but over the last couple of days he has been allowed out we’re i’am working and he is just a little star. i have been trying to take some photographs but he just won’t keep still long enough and runs and plays none stop. i have also introduced him to the lead which is a new one I have brought,and it’s a none twist one which is such a simple invention and a fab idea,I also got a new lanyard for my old whistles I kept from my last dogs(will show photographs below). Anyway I did manage to take one photograph of him and as you can see he is growing and coming on well and humanising him is really easy when you work outdoors and in different locations most days. i will try and take more photographs when I can and try and combine it with tree related items after all this is Arbtalk. Today November The 12th 2019 New Working Lead None Twist 2 Sections My Old Whistles On New Leather Lanyard

Exactly...and his best one...hereeeeeeee weeeeeee goooooooo

No he is alive and kicking and making a fourtune,,,he’s a lad though he was the best thing on that program,always wanted to know who Tony Roney was?

Hi stubs know exactly how you feel buddy my last dog had a seizure on Xmas eve 2015 and had to take him to an all night vets and to be fair they were fantastic with him,they said organ failure was the diagnosis but said they could give him something to help him for a few weeks which I agreed to as I didn’t what to lose him on Xmas day. Exactly 3 weeks later he gave up and took him to the vets were he feel asleep in my arms and of course didn’t wake up( very emotional even writing this)..that’s what they do to you.. i here what your saying Ref 15 yrs but I was thinking more like from now up to when he is as fully trained as I can get him to a really good standard at around 3/4.

Hi john,terriers are great fun but having a decent working dog which you have trained yourself is a glorious site,especially when you a good day picking up or beating(picking up are mainly for the labs) the work horses are the Spaniels it’s what they are breed for. i always had English Springers but decided this time to go for an sprocker.

Thank you all for all your positive kind remarks and encouragement...I really like silkys thread and we are very good friends and I have thought for a while about doing something similar,Paul(silky) has got his down to a fine art and makes very good reading. i know a lot of Arb guys and ladies love there country pursuits,gundogs,Pet dogs,shooting etc so thought I would do a thread about having a working dog as a pup and keeping updated on him growing up and training him and how he will evolve from a 9 week pup to a working dog and take it on though the trails and tribulations,the highs and the lows of trianing him. i would hopefully think it would make good reading every now and again just like silkys posts have been over the last 4/5 years. Thanks again for all your kind responses and like I said I will be bringing him to the shows next year so if anyone what’s to have a catch up or if you have even got a shoot we’re you could do with an extra dog and or beater he’ll be ready in a couple of seasons.?

That’s fab that you had that chance and experience to do what you wanted,like I said I’ll update progress of Weaver and upload photographs regularly and if ok I’ll pm you to save unwanted negativity,don’t mind enthusiasm and pointers but hate negativity.

Always negative with your posts so please keep your opinions to yourself on this one.

I wanted to be a game keeper from when I first remember but never had the opportunity as I came from a single parent home and as soon as I left school I had to find a job local to me to look after my mother and couldn’t do the years at college for game keeping at the time. love training the dogs and it opened up so many avenues because when you have a well trained dog you get lots of invites and get to meet some really nice people. like you I always had Spaniels and always Black & White. after I lost my last one 5 yrs ago I swore i wouldn’t have another as tha pian losing him was to much for me. but here we are with my new little sprocker baby Weaver and the process starts again,dust of the starting pistol( even got dummie launcher now) and getting bits and pieces of kit together ready for when the real training starts. will be a lot different now as i live alone and can spend as much time out with him without someone nagging at me about your dinner is cold we’re have you been...absolute bliss.?

Thank you sturie & Annie I will be posting updates on here how Weaver progresses during his training and post photographs of him growing up,most of it will be gundog related which is not quite Arb but because he will be with me every day at work am sure I will be able to mix it in with tree related issues. it definitely won’t be in the same league as silky’s thread he has it down to a fine art but I’ll do my best,thanks for birthday wishes Annie. Weaver will be with me at the Arb & APF shows in next year so anyone who follows this can catch up with him.?

Thanks wedge...it took me quite a while to decide what to do and what to get...i made the decision not to go for another black & white English springer so decided on a black sprocker. i wanted him from good working lines and not from a breeder so found this lovely young farmer couple in Anglesey who put there springer bitch to Ian opensahaws field trial champion cocker Mallowdale xfactor..had to go through a process of telling them what I was going to do with him,were I lived and if I was going to work him as they were only letting the pups go to a working home and environment.dispite some short sited comments on here I do actually know what i’am doing. And had a lot of success with my other dogs,only small issue as stubs pointed out is the length of his tail but to be quite honest it won’t be a big concern. Like I said i’am thinking of doing a thread to up date his progress over the next year or two.?

He is not protecting the toy it’s just the way he woke up which is the only time he sits still or when he is actually asleep and that’s all it and is nothing to do with any kind of training he is a million miles and months away from any of that.he is not my first working dog and what I have seen so far he has a very good chance of being a very good working dog..the rest is down to me....I may even just post on here every now and again and update on his progress.

Hi stubs...yes all under control,had my first dog in 81 made lots of mistakes while learning had good schooling from game keepers and my one and only favourite gundog training book,Training Spaniels By Joe Irving. got my dogs to a above average standard and started of entertaining the game keepers gundog section of the shooting times and it opens the doors to other things such as invites to shoots all over the country,have done trials at,Windsor,sandringham,holkham,Blenheim,Weston Park, And smaller local ones. just looking forward to getting back into it..just the basics for the next 6/8 months then progress I don’t need to tell you what’s involved as you know the hours what will need to be spent out training and humanising him.

Cheers stubby for that and yes I know Ref tail but it was out of my control on this occasion so just have to live with it and his parents were quite small so don’t think he’s going to be a big sprocker so hopefully all good....you should be a mind of information Regards gundog trianing..I have always had springers form the badger court strain over 30 odd years,first time with a sprocker but wouldn’t think training methods are any different.

Hello All for those of you who are dog lovers and especially working dog enthusiast here is my new addiction,he’s a sprocker and he’s now 10 weeks old had him a couple of weeks now. been looking for a working sprocker from good working stock and finally found this little chap in Anglesey,have called him “Weaver” and he’s got all the right actions and temprement to be a first class worker so it’s down to be to put the time in and get him to be as good as he can be. Always had working English Spaniels and worked them and entered a few trials and done not to bad,my last dog passed away 5 years ago and broke my heart and swore I couldn’t go though that sort of pain again but I missed the frosty mornings during the winter getting all the kit ready and meeting up at numerous shoots to go beating and picking up. so hear we are 5 years later and the hard work begins and so looking forward to it. The only things I kept from my last dog was the whistles so have started buying all the training gear again,I just want to add a note to anyone who has been in my position and some may understand what i’am about to say,another reason I got”Weaver” is I found myself without any kind of focus apart from work,yes I have a son and a grand daughter but that doesn’t help give you a main focus. I found myself working 7 days a week and not for the money which is always a good thing but mainly because I didn’t have anything else to focus on and put my mind to,so after 5 years and working weekends for no apparent reason apart from occupying mind mind I took the step of getting another working dog but at 57 (today is my birthday) I decided to get a companion as well has a working dog as he will be with me every day at work but a focus on weekends apart from just working and to do again something that I thought I couldn’t have done after my last dog “Rio” past away. So here he is little”Weaver” to say hello to all his new friends on Arbtalk

Well some justice at last,the guy who cut down 70 odd trees which included a large Redwood to make way for building some houses has been fined £300’000 and the tree surgeon find a further £120’000 guess he will be out of business as can’t see insurance paying up.Tree was worth around £66’000 but in reality irreplaceable.

Thank you spud...my grammar and spelling are terrible so any help with both are greatly accepted and taken on board...and not a swear work in sight?

Great positive reply’s from all and I feel that we can all express our views,disagreements and arguments without resorting to it being backed up by swearing in Certain circumstances especially when other people are likely to be reading them.personally I think this post has had a better reaction then I anticipated and I thank all who have and will post on this subject with more positive views.

Thanks spud and mark.

We all work in an environment we’re swearing is kinda excepted and as said I do more then my fair share but there is a time and a place for it and when the swearing starts it just turns into written aggression and spirals out of control.

No...I didn’t want to seem like telling lies out of school,I just wanted to mention in some kind of way how the posts are being allowed to have swearing in them especially since the change in format and nothing being said and if anyone else had noticed the same thing.

Been reading a few posts lately and seems like the hostility,tone and language has increased and is being allowed to do so and far be it for me to preach about swearing as I do my fair share but when it’s in a written word for all to see it just lowers the posting and creates hostility which escalates and can get out of hand. Bad language and inappropriate wording used to be picked up and the moderators gave out warnings,I know I will be targeted for bringing up this subject but surely I can’t be the only one who has noticed this trend and is just not appropriate for this kind of site..let the war of words commence.

Obviously the tree was there before the wall and if they do go for amity value which looks likely I would guess they would go for a complete wall rebuild and not a patch up job and with a concrete lintel at a specified hight,some may be laughing but have seen it done and have done it myself and it works under the correct circumstances.wall is insignificant aposed to the amity value of the tree.

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