David Goss

thats why i was thinking of 2 or 3 boxes, i have to do 2 to 3 trips anyway to and from the car depending on how much stuff i have with me that day, and the plan was for something sturdy enough i can just bump up the stairs. I will still need to carry it down in the morning, cant see the neighbours being pleased with me thumping big plastic boxes down all those stairs at 6am.

funny but justified:thumbup1:

Chinese moustaches they are and very good examples at that:thumbup1: Its the welding seam between branch wood and trunk wood.

Cheers guys but i really need something with wheels cos i cant park my car close to the house and carrying all that gear is killing me, i have yellows and double yellow lines all over my street:thumbdown: hate staying in the city but the wife is happy and thats better than her complaining every day, but i swear my arms are about 5cm longer with lugging all that gear around and up 3 flights of stairs!!!

I agree and the occasional unforeseens become less unforeseen the more you do it.

Never used the 441 but i do have a 460 with 20" bar and i cant say 1 bad thing against it... except maybe its a beast

Yes Paul is spot on. As for our job being "Dangerous" and getting "Danger Money" i think i may have mentioned this before (possible dig at me perhaps?) The thing is that our job IS dangerous or hazardous if you prefer and it is our skill that stops us from being killed or injured. I think my point about danger money in another thread was more tongue in cheek than anything else but it is valid. Do you think we get paid enough for our skill? I certainly dont think we get what we are due and the danger money was just a way to try and bump up our price. Anyway thats not what this thread was about, it was about injuries. I think the most valid point Paul mentioned was about training but how can you train someone how to do something that takes years of experience to do in the safest and most economical way. Simple answer is you cant. What can be done is to train people as best as possible and make sure they understand simple things like exactly where tensions and compressions are, how important it is to have a stable work position, an understanding of where the hazards are and how to avoid them etc etc. My point before about people i have seen working is that they have no clue where the danger is and to me this is why we need to make sure they DONT pass chainsaw tickets unless they can show a degree of common sense, which automatically points you in the direction of seeing hazards and avoiding them. I see AA Teccie's point in the accident book and all the other guff that goes with H&S but it is more useful to the robots than anyone else IMO. We have our PPE, we have our chainsaw tickets, we have a brain so let us get on with it. I worked with a guy that was very appreciative of advice that i gave and the best way to do this and that blah blah which sometimes he listened and sometimes he didnt. The times he didnt and something went wrong he explained to me that he prefers to make his own mistakes because that way he learns better. Now that to me sums it up perfectly. I read an accident book once and i just pissed myself laughing at some of the stupidity in it, i learned nothing from it except there is more stupidity in the world than i thought. Anyway i am going on a bit again:blushing: Before i go AA Teccie i am getting on a bit in arborist terms and i do have aches and pains from a physical job but i regret nothing. My working life has been full of excitement and wonderful things and i learn more every day, including the fact that i am more dangerous with a silky in my left hand than with the right. So to avoid cutting myself more i use my right as a preference and the left is used only when cutting full stretch, or is helping the right:001_rolleyes:

Every day is a school day for all of us

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as above, not a skidder expert but welcome to the loony bin err i mean forum sorry yes forum

In Rome we used the big black plastic plant pots with the handles in the same way, for rigging kit but my climbing kit was always in a big climbers rucksack with the rope inside in a separate rope bag but was always a struggle to get the thing closed so i had to have a seperate box for all the extra bits. I just want to get everything together for each type of job in a box each, with wheels cos i am getting old

those tubs would be good for keeping rigging rope in.

very good point

congrats to you and your good lady

looks a tad unrefined shall we say but for £1.50 whos complaining? i would be slightly worried about wear on the rope with the rough look it has. Hope it works out for you:thumbup1:

haha i dont think a wheelie bin will fit in the car but good idea:thumbup1:

yea they do look the business but still a bit costly imo think they are the ones for me yea, will give it a week or so to see if i can find anything better but if not i think thats what i will go for:thumbup1:

yea i will have to fish a few spare ones out of the canal first. Not really waterproof either with all the holes:001_rolleyes:

Back to the OP.... Have you thought of just using a multi sling choked on the stem? just attach a crab and a pulley to the loose end, or even just the crab.... jobs a goodun not retrievable but that wasnt your main concern as far as i was aware if you want to go even cheaper then just choke a normal endless strop on the stem simples worse than a bunch of girlies arguing about whos shoes are the nicest you lot sheesh:001_rolleyes:

My wife is an expert in statistics, in fact she is a big brainy doctor of them so if you need to know anything about the best way to work out your numbers then ask her, i just cut wood:blushing:

I think that also, the back cut should for sure have been the last one. I still dont see the point in that cut anyway, it never worked as a hinge and just popped off as soon as the tree started to move due to the arc of movement created by the fall. If the 2 pieces were for sure separate then this would have worked. I stick by my original post that it would have been better and safer to start from the front hinge and work back.

Bit dodgey with a chainsaw back then were you? Sounds like a cracking opportunity for sure, bit racist though us Scottish dont get a shot at it, we are all British after all:001_rolleyes:

I have seen them before, even before i went to Rome 6 years ago so they must be around somewhere. Sorry i cant help with anything else other than my useless comment:blushing:

I must say i pondered over buying one for a long long time because of the expense but now if it ever needs replaced i will for sure buy another one. I cant say how long they last but i have only had mine a few months and it still works as if new, no slippage from the cam at all. I have heard the cams need changing every now and again but i think 6 months is minimum wear time if using it every day. I dont use it every day as i have 2 ropes, one long one for big trees with the jack on it and a shorter rope for small to medium trees which i use with various friction hitches depending how i feel on the day, i must say i normally tie the distel for that one but i still get annoyed with the bulk of having the small pulley and the knot and having to use a second crab for the end of the rope because there is no more space on the one with the hitch (never have that problem with the prussic, one crab holds the lot) but i am enjoying the change. I am still using Beal regate for all my friction hitches at the moment because i havent run out of it yet but when i do, i will for sure be trying a few others as well in my new found climbing lifesyle If you are thinking of getting a spiderjack i do suggest also trying one first as they are not everyones cup of tea and can scare the begeezus out of you at the beginning with its speed. I tried one only once before buying and wasnt completely convinced at that time, hence the long time pondering about price and its worth. Good luck and dig yourself out of the hole mate, trust me you will be glad of it:001_smile:

bit too expensive for my taste, i just want a simple wheeled box i can get all my stuff in, or even 2 boxes so i can have 1 for saws and oily greasy stuff, or even 3 and i could split the gear up better to be more accessible and tidy if you catch my drift. I just dont want to buy something that the wheels will come off after the first bump.