cousin jack

+1 on the above!

Crows are smart, if you find where a pair are nesting and you take a gun and walk to the tree, they will not come near it, however, they ain't that smart, you can outwit them by two of you walking to the tree, then one walks away from it leaving the other in ambush. Also, they are pretty easy to decoy, and catch in Larsens if you know what you're doing. Ask any good gamekeeper and they'll tell you a breeding pair of crows on your beat will do as much damage as a fox!

I'm going to buy a 100 cu off him, there already bagged, my prices will go up next winter so I'll make my money without half the work.

I have calculated that if the team are charging £45 an hour, and I think that is a conservative estimate, then he would make more money as you say, selling at roadside. I don't think he has done any maths at all, he has just looked at the end figure and thinks it's all profit. The contractors are'nt going to tell him, it's well paid work for them, but this man was educated at Eton so therefore he must be right

I buy my timber standing, the owner of the woodland seeing that I am selling seasoned at £80 m3 has decided I'm making too much money out of him, so he has now got a team of contractors to fell, extract, split and deliver firewood at £50 m3. They are a team of three, tractor & forwarder, splitter, tipper, and they charge an hourly rate, now how can he be making money out of that?

Am I a petrol head, NO. But I do remember the first time I went to Silverstone for the Friday qualifying in the eighties, cost £9 to get in. I arrived at the turnstile just as the morning untimed practise started, I heard a noise that increased in decibels and pitch and then it went away again. The hairs stood up on the back of my neck and I thought there's no way on earth that can be a car, but knowing it was, I paid me money and ran into the track, thrilling stuff. I went for years after that, always the first day qualifying, go anywhere you like on the track, endless laps by Mansell and cheap as chips.

I don't have a clue to be honest, I live in my own little world and I just do what I do because I enjoy it. But I too, go through the garage forecourt at least once a week. It would be looking at it through rose tinted glasses to say "the old days were the best", because the old days were bloody hard too. The population on this planet has doubled in 45 yrs so "stepping back" is a hard option if we want to keep feeding everyone. I personally can't get my head round this biofuel business, around us now we have about 2000 acres of miscanthus, seems to me it's not fit for man nor beast and, I am led to believe that it would'nt be viable without the grants and incentives. Call me old fashioned, but I would prefer to see the land growing wheat, barley, grass, or even trees, seems more natural to me. It seems though that we just can't live without oil, and as long as the demand is there, they will keep putting the price up. Simples. But, should the oil run out tomorrow, I know I've got a back up

If I'm working here at home it walks and gives me a lift as well , however if I am working away from home I do resort to using a combustion engine to propel us along, but it is fuelled by horse manure, I have and talk great quantities of that

Grow me own

**** yer mitsubishi, I've got a horse outside

You have PM

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If they've got the right equipment and they know what the're doing they should be able to.

If you have some horse skills and forestry skills you are at an advantage, but it is wise to get some help. A horse that is broken to ride may well flip it's lid if you just whack a log on the back of it. You have to get the horse used to pulling, having chains wrapped around it, under it and over it, the potential for a disaster, to horse and human is big. As with anything, the people who are good at it, may it look easy. I have 40yrs experience with horses but I am still on crutches from breaking my leg in October due to an accident with the horse I was breaking at the time. Doug Joiner does logging courses in Herefordshire, Working horses in forestry, agriculture, tourism and education I am also starting to run courses here in Shropshire, they will be one on one courses so will offer a better experience I hope, feel free to get in touch. If you were going to buy an arch, I would recommend the Ulvins arch, pricey, £2000+, but a brilliantly engineered bit of kit. Maggie Braunton in North Wales sells these 01492 580291. You will also need some working harness, collar, traces, swingletree, anyway feel free to get in touch if you wish.

http://arbtalk.co.uk/forum/picture-forum/27-general-tree-pics-394.html#post185550

Talk is cheap.

I would also be interested in this.

Fantastic stuff, although I cannot understand why I have not thought of doing something like this myself, before now. This forum really is a great place to learn.

Slick, barstewards.

Shelbie's the man, Although, some say he's Saw Sick Steve in disguise.

Try cotton wool if you want to give them ear protection, I work with horses because I want to and they are still the motive power, skidding to rideside for secondary extraction makes perfect sense to me. A Honda 8HP engine is not as noisy as a chainsaw, and it is hardly a gas guzzler, and as you yourself said on another thread, you can't talk to a machine at dinnertime.

Pictures of horse drawn boat on The Rochdale Canal, last summer, this canal went over The Pennines and connected the mills with the ports. On this day we went from Summit To Todmorden. A good boathorse could move up to fifty tons. The last pic is The Great Wall of Tod, testamount to the navies that built it, as straight as a die and not a brick out of place, also note the iron railway bridge with castellated turrets, they don't build 'em like that nowadays.

Lee, good one, very few people realise that horses have had such an impact on our history, from travelling across continents to supplying armies and before the advent of steam, moving just about every item under the sun.

Its also pretty good at stacking

It's a means to an end, working on tonnage rates it increases production so you can be more competitive, profitable, and tender for contracts that would be out of reach due to long extraction routes etc.