Billy

I was going to start another thread but this will do. I am also in the market for a used chipper towable 6" chipper I am looking to spend £3-5k, is this enough? I know in this price range they are getting on a bit, willa chipper for this sort of price be likely to break down alot what sort of parts start to fail? i have only used chippers as a subbie climber briefly at the end of a day, so don't have much experience or knowledge of what happens to them when they get old or what to watch out for so any info would be greatly appreciated.

Ha I saw this a few hours ago, thought it was abit odd having it in his back garden. is 2600 his buy it now then?

might be that your not getting them to hit the tree at the right angle, or thewy could just be really blunt. try to improve your technique first before looking at the equipment too much.

I always thought trades were 'skilled' occupations, with the exception of painting. and stuff requring a degree/non practical skills as academic. semi skilled owuld be stuff like cutting grass road sweeping, maybe...But they're basically labourers. Climbers and good groundies are deffinetley skilled in my opinion. If your not bothered about not getting the rise (which is nuts by the way) then don;t worry about it too much, if your respected by your peers then that should be enough, surely? Best hurry up and ge tthat degree because you wont be achieveing the majority of those goals on the tools...then you'll be the detached guy in the suit

How short are the normal stretch airs? they cost enough as it is without needing to buy the XL version.

Get fitter for sure. When your working, you'll be weilding saws bigger than that all day in between dragging, rigging etc.

750kg micro digger with an auger if you want to be really tidy and easy. will go through a standard door way. With rubber tracks so as long as you don't scrag about it wont damage the ground at all, if its all fairly level you should be able to track it over most paving without faffing about with boards and stuff.

Yeah, but usuaully you can spot these types a mile off, all mouth no trousers as ever:laugh1:. But how much better is a sh*t for brains brash rat with no ambition, that it takes you 3 months to teach how to fuel up and tie a saw onto your line correctly, and typically struggles to understand any word involving more than 2 syllables:laugh1:

His point is these labourers are filling positions that could/should be taken up by propper qualified groundsmen, so the many qualified guys who do not have work cannot even get there foot in the door. I don't see how 'Manning up' would solve this problem?

Sounds like your a practical guy, with some saw experience just use your common sense and be careful, CS30 & 31 only really give anything useful to complete novice's IMO. The information given on tension and compression is extremely basic and nothing you couldn't figure out on your own. Dealing with tree's on banks, tension and compression etc is more about experience so you may as well get stuck in. Just take it slow and be aware of the potential energy stored in some contorted limbs, sometimes you've only got to touch the chain on them and they will snap and fly around, this could easily break a arm or leg, or much worse. I've not heard of this top lock cut, sorry. Jut avoid cutting too deep into the compression side of timber, especially if you only have 1 saw!!

Maybe, but Racing motocross takes money too, but no one pays me extra for it, just another expensive decision. Also I've been on the wrong end of that situation with a less skilled older worker than myself so maybe alittle bitter I was not aware that it used it be common place for people to be payed more purely for the birth of a child, I wouldn't be too eager to do it unless it made thme work harder or better though:lol:

Meant to add htis to tha tpost but couldn't. As SWB says above if you bite your tongue for too long it all just boils over and you end up 'asking' for more a little too directly and thats bad news, bes tto keep on top of things and politely put your views across before it gets ot this point.

This is something that gets up my nose. "i've/he's got a family house, van bla bla bla". I've always ended up working with my own tools fuel etc one way or another and driven to site or contractors house in my van or tipper etc. So i got the tools,PPE, petrol, vehicle, diesel, tax insurance etc costs. the family and house is a peronsal choice, they will take your money its a decision everyone makes, well the former anyway. It seems quite unfair to me that many employers will see it fair to pay someone in their 40's of equal or less ability to a 18-20 year old considerably more money, purely because of their situation, pay should be decided purely on the individuals ability to carry out duties/what jobs they are capable of taking care of. This thread and the comments in the above post illustrate the imbalance perfectly, the only difference between these lads and a more senior career change type is age, and a 19 year old is generally way fitter than someone in their 40's, yet few members here would post the same replies to both these types of people concerning wages. Anyway back to the thread. If you started working for him purely due to a college placement you can't really ask for more as he knows you need him, so your lucky to be on 40 in that respect, however if he seems like a sound bloke and you are more than half useful try having a chat with him RE mid-long term prospects and more money, if this isn't evident in his generally attitude towards you, you'll soon see if he's, going to let you grow or just wants to keep you down as cheap labourer. If i were you i'd want to get things so that he saw me as another worker rather than 'the placement kid' all the time you are just the placement guy your in a very weak position. Also using your own gear and fuel!!! On that wage is criminal your saw should 'break' next week or get borrowed by your uncle etc But you wont get unless you ask, keep asking

If all that genuinley bothers you then you must object to all fires? Life's too short to worry about smoke from a bonfire in that much detail imo, millions of people walk to work next to main roads every day.It can't be alot worse than us working with chainsaws spraying oil into the air around us off the bar and from the exhaust all day long can it. I've had plenty of fires in rural and fairly built up areas with few complaints as long as neighbours are consulted prior to the works commencing generally everyone is happy and has their windows shut and washing in etc. Seems perfectly professional to me why drag, chip and transport if you can get away with having a fire pretty much in the drop zone so much more efficient and oftenthe best way of dealing with arising imo. Where the law is concerned i'm sure we could sell arising back tot he customer for a pound then burn them for them,as was mentioned inthe waste transport license thread:001_tt2:

What we really need is to get the dole office, and a few purveyors of reebok classics nike tn hats and trackies all on a nice big converted tanker, get ema ll in there then take it out to sea n skuttle it SORTED!! on lighter note, anyone remmeber the scene from Rumble in the Bronx where those gangsters feed a rival gang member through a chipper into a couple of bin bags then send his pal back to the other gang with the chippings in the bags?

Tommer has a point, but i can;t feel too sorry for them. some of my mates live on council estates and are hard working. But some of the younger kids about 15-18 or whatever just smoking and drinking moaning about having no money..for more smoke and drink just seem like a lost cause. "I aint going to fackin college" etc. I'd never employ them they have no ethic to work hard so they're of no use to tradesmen and they wont get educated so they're ******. From that background they'd all get payed to go to college n stuff too! so as far as i'm concerned they bring it onthemselves all they ahve to do is look around them to see whats coming to them. I don't see how they're a 'minority group' just a bunch of lazy people who wanna live on handouts. They deserve all the abuse they get there are routes out of being dirty chav scum, other than the chipper Nothing wrong with any real minority groups, apart form the members of them who partake in the chav way of life. But yeah I could deffinatley send some through a chipper!

yep was meant to get a foot or so here, theres barely an inch

I've used a 18" bar on a 660 it tears, but still drinks fuel though, not very efficient really.

Nice big 'clean' Aaks, with really broad crowns, and very little epicormic! Beech, nice to climb and no nastybits to snag on, shame they turn your hands green. And Birch for how easy they are to get down.

Sounds brilliant, just like i was with my grandfather around the farm, tractors, diggers, fishing, shooting, fires.I wouldn't have it any other way, not many kids get the privelige of that sort of upbringing, i wouldn't worry too much about convention as long as he's enjoying it.

MS250/260, nice light saw with plenty of power for its size, will pull a 18" bar pretty well if needs be too.

how did you damage your acl?

Be very careful and wear shorts.

I like tree's, but i must say what drew me to this, other than the money is the excitment of smashing them down (where possible) taking out as bigger top as I dare etc etc, Those times when you need the 66 or 88 in the tree, exciting stuff.

Gives the grinder a head start.