Rob D
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Cracking mate!
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I think what he's getting at is promote the side of the industry to educate people about proper tree care, make sure your arborist is qualified and insured etc etc why good tree work is expensive etc.. ... and so hopefully the public would then spend more money on a qualified person doing the job rather than matey with a chainsaw. Education of the public is the only way forward IMO.
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Have always argued we are way undervalued.... But as it stands it won't change - more money = more uninsured, untrained, weekend warriors will have a go = you'll be undercut.
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Like all timber it's a shame but your easiest route is firewood... Cedar of Lebanon is easier to sell as that's the favoured one for wardrobe backs but there is a big knot in the back of that main stem which de values the timber for proper makers. No sawmills will be interested.... You could see if there's anyone with a portable mill or chainsaw mill nearby - offer to go halves on the timber you produce.... this will make great outdoor tables... durable and easy to work. If you have some curved pieces there (it looks like you do) and can mill them yourself I know a framer who loves these and usually pays around £16-00 to £20-00 a cube for thick pieces i.e. just mill the middle 8" out. PM me if you want his number.
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Great thread Chris and methodically done What would also be good if you had a method would also be to weigh the bag of loose filled logs and the bag of logs you bounced and settled. Just out of interest (I know oak will of course weigh a lot more etc etc...) I have a very similar set up to you except the bags are x2 high and stacked in polytunnel. I don't bounce or settle the bags but usually just top them up as they come out for delivery - prob around 20 logs each time.
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<p>Yep - if you go on my website <a href="http://www.chainsawbars.co.uk" rel="external nofollow">Chainsawbars ? bars, chains and chainsaw accessories</a> and sign up. Then let me know and I can set the 10% discount, Rob</p>
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An MS880 all the way - price is expensive but your production will be greater and more importantly less strain on you the operator (although it seems like it would be harder with a larger saw). You always will come across larger logs when you start milling... an 880 can handle it!
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Ha ha! Nice one :biggrin:
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Yep good point - much better to walk away from these situations calmly and move on.... as you say customers like these will not change their attitude, they have already wasted your time why allow them to waste more (i.e the time you spend in your head thinking about it and winding yourself up)..... and what satisfaction is there in calling his bluff had it been successful?.... ...little to none really.... much better to just move on. Something I find very difficult sometimes!!
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IMO it's bit unprofessional - not 'very'.... And it is of course the best option to be calm and have a 'some you win some you don't attitude' - it's never usually going to benefit yourself.... but I dunno - IMO some customers do need a bit of a response catered to their attitude and treatment of you whether that is unprofessional or not
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Gutted Alec - what a nightmare mate - any chance of an insurance payout?
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I don't think he does at all - he has a very valid point in what he's saying... much better to take the professional route at all times. I don't always take this route (rightly or wrongly) and all I was saying earlier is that I don't blame you for calling this particular customers bluff and that Skyhucks comment seemed over harsh to me... ....but looking at your above post here I'm sort of regretting that now!!
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I still have a load of logs to sell so the lower the better!
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Bit of an extreme reply innit? More like he was just calling matey's bluff - and why not as it seems that he was bluffing? There was no need for the customer to e-mail back saying he had a quote for 1000 euros cheaper. He could have just e-mailed back saying 'we've had a number of quotes but have decided to go with another firm'.
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Oh - and I got a new Buggyscopic in the end.... It's great for me but I would have got a bigger one - except I needed something to drive in and out of polytunnels. Also it's got a big lift for it's size and width of machine so you have to be a lot more careful of turning it over. It also gets stuck in deep mud.... overall was it worth it? Dunno really - I've had one hydraulic pipe come off in 2 1/2 years and x2 punctures - always starts, always works - so in that respect all good... but a lot of money and am still paying for it although I got a grant towards it.
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I hear you Nick - I am totally the opposite.... ! Bought a secondhand rough terrain Manitou for £5,500-00. Spent a horrible year and £8-000-00 on it (incrementally). Sold in disgust for £6-000-00 at end of that year and vowed never secondhand again. Secondhand is great when it works and you have no problems but I just could not handle the cost and worse was the down time.....
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I milled some and thought it was ok.... then sanded it up and the boards made look really good.... well worth the effort. It's very hard and as said very close grained... I'll try and put some pics up later.
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It's an economical way of doing it - nothing wrong with shoveling a few chips!
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I've got most of the Stihl chains - you can get them here Chains The micro chisel (same really as semi chisel) is the one to go for as easier to sharpen and will keep it's edge longer. Tip - Sign up as soon as you enter the site then let me know as you get a 10% discount being an arbtalker.
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I got Black Ops 1 2 years ago - and played the Zombies on it pretty solidly for 1 year! - that's the only game that has drawn me back in like that since.... I can remember! I'll get BO2 in a week or so i think.... (Xbox)
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Good example of rippling! Rippled sycamore is one of the more valuable timbers. Good work again
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As above Rob - your best bet to do this is to cut a log into suitable suitable sizes for someone else to mill for you.
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Nicely done - yep so satisfying to work with timber you've milled yourself.
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We have the same problem here.... although nothing to do with me a neighbour has stirred the council up. Things like - change of use of polytunnels from plants to dry logs. It's ok to have the logs in a massive unsightly pile outside the polytunnel just not neatly inside in log bags There's a whole load of other issues as well with the site (which has been operating fine for 30 years) and I dread to think how much money the council has ploughed into pursuing it all :sneaky2:
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Thanks for taking the time for an indepth post John
