Rob D

Nice info there - I may pinch that for some of the descriptions on the Echos we are selling with your permission? It does make you wonder why this sort of info is not more readily available!

I think it's down to how many products are sold weighed up with knowledge of using them - in an ideal world you'd have someone who has used the products doing the listings for these same products to at least give a 'human' description... but on the whole people who like using tools don't like typing on computers!

Yep but there seems some conflicting articles and pictures... I think they are both below is a re branded Sugi bar. Husqvarna partners with Sugihara/Diatop Co to develop next-gen chainsaw bars - Wood Business WWW.WOODBUSINESS.CA Husqvarna, one of the world’s leading producers of innovative forest, park and outdoor power equipment products, is taking...

Also Husky are now bringing out X Tough Lite Bars - they look awful familiar to me! Husqvarna unveils new X-Tough Light chainsaw bars WWW.FORESTRYJOURNAL.CO.UK CHAINSAW manufacturer Husqvarna has announced the launch of its new X-Tough Light bars, developed in... Strangely can't figure out if it is either Sugihara and Tsumura that are working with Husky - or both as the noses on some bars look Sugi like and some Tsumura like 🤷‍♂️

Was on one of their pages... the chainsaw one - Chainsaws | Husqvarna WWW.HUSQVARNA.COM Husqvarna offer a full range of chainsaws, including petrol powered, battery powered and top handle chainsaws for... It's more a moan as I have to spend a fair amount of time going through their website to match bars/chains that then slot into the selector. Generally it's pretty miserable work! But it feels like salt in the wound when you see all the different massive banners telling you how easy everything is and how wonderful the world is with a Husky in your hands.... There seems to be a path of 'maximum guff - minimum facts'. Not saying get rid of all the flashy banners but shouldn't it be more the customer saying how great the brand is not the brand itself 😅😅

Ref Echo - their new models seem to be very solid performers ie. 2511s, DCS2500T [Battery], 281s and 362s pretty good but don't seem to be as 'modernised' as the 2511, 390ESX is great as is the 501SX, and the 621SX and 7310SX are both new saws and likely to be very good.

We are Echo dealers - and we find the marketing confusing! So unless you are a real Echo aficionado I have no idea how the customer figures out what's what! But then looking at manufacturers and the way things are advertised these days is so chock a block full of spam and guff I'm surprised anyone can work out the facts. Trying to dig details out of the big names is like pulling teeth. Went to Husky website and there is so much of this sort of stuff which takes up a lot of space and tells you... nothing! Oh no - it does tell you something - it tells you repeatedly how wonderful the company is!! 'A HUSQVARNA CHAINSAW FOR EVERY CHALLENGE Professional forestry work requires reliable, durable equipment. Whereas easier gardening chainsaw tasks, might require less muscle but the same needs for easy handling. And in the middle, a landowner or farmer benefits most from a flexible all-round tool. Husqvarna's range of chainsaws offer the ideal combination of maneuverability, durability and cutting capacity – tailor-made for the just about any requirements, making easy work of any challenge, no matter how hard.' WE ARE THE VERY BEST WORKDAY No matter if you're a full-time professional or cutting away at home. Husqvarna is committed to your success. In addition to our products, we offer generous warranties and expert service. WE ARE A JOB WELL DONE We know that every task is a challenge. Up in the treetops, out on a limb, in the midst of a dense forest or in your very own backyard or garden. So, we've decided to share our expertise by collecting tips and tricks, inspirational articles, do's and don'ts. What to use, when to use it. And how. All things forestry and gardening, in one single space. MAKING YOUR HUSQVARNA EVEN BETTER Designed by Husqvarna – for your Husqvarna, Husqvarna X-CUT™ chains and X-Force™ bars are two ways to get even more cutting efficiency out of your chainsaw. Additionally, we offer a wide range of purpose-developed fuel, lubricants and battery accessories – all designed to make your work smarter and easier. Chainsaw Parts & Accessories A Husqvarna chainsaw is the result of rigorous testing, and over 300 years of engineering expertise. Our chainsaws are among the best in the world, and with original Husqvarna chainsaw parts and accessories you’ll ensure they last longer, perform better and save you money in the long run. Chainsaw Bars The right bar ensures high performance and a longer service life. With an original Husqvarna chainsaw bar you'll get the most out of your machine, and there's always a bar from among our assortment to match your needs. FIND THE RIGHT CHAIN SAW FOR HOME- AND LANDOWNERS From small, quick cuts and repetitive firewood cutting to felling trees and limbing. We know what it takes to handle this wide range of tasks, no matter the size of your land or project. We have reliable all-round chainsaws suitable for your everyday and occasional use.

Looks good - what's the advantages of going over to petrol on a chipper?

We now have 8"/10"/12" for the new Husky battery polesaws. Not sure why Husky don't fit their new .325 .043 chains to these but expect they will change to these at some point... either way this will give you the smooth cutting option of the Panther Mini bars but bear in mind these are more fragile than the 1/4 .050 - but I would expect to get a few more cuts per battery. These saws have a smaller 6mm mounting stud hence the other Panther Mini bars would not fit. You searched for d6-42k - Chainsawbars WWW.CHAINSAWBARS.CO.UK

I'd say you'd find it hard to scale a business like this given what you have said and gut reaction is I'd either look to stay where you're at or find another business you can scale up easier. Always hard to find good reliable workers and if you do find them it increases admin time and organising work for them. And in itself can cause large headaches ie. if particularly bad weather or low volume of work available now you have workers standing around costing money but with no work to do. On top of this it's hard to do several different tasks well ie. equipment wise to scale up a tree business you need expensive equipment and that means you then need to have it working more hours or it's not efficient to have it. A catch 22. If it were me I'd look to see which are of the business is the most profitable first, which do you enjoy doing the most and try and become a master of this area with best equipment and most efficient service.

There is so little material in them I'd guess that no way would they stop a chain going at any sort of speed. It is an odd one why they are still made..

I never figured what made a chainsaw glove ie. if both hands are always on the saw what point is there having any protection in the top of them? I think it's to do with snedding where on one cut you'd work the saw one handed... but the reason it's hard to even work out says something. Wear gloves that give good grip, are easy to take on and off, and you like wearing. As said in the thread the whole concept of a 'chainsaw glove' is misleading. Use what works for you.

Possibly in some cases - but not in the stuff we sell. This is not a generated shortage - it's already happening. It will get worse as the year rolls on, and as a prediction you'll see price rises as much or more than at any time in recent history [some of our freight charges are 200%-300% more than at the same time last year...]. I've not seen anything like this before in all the times we have been importing. Cardboard for packing materials has a silly waiting list and we've been told to forget ordering any boxes on the lead up to Christmas. So whether people buy 1 bar or 10 bars - we will run out of some part numbers a long time before the next shipment comes in.

Just banging the same drum and playing the same record again - got this from Cannon the other day. Commodity prices are rocketing - it could be simply a temporary thing - or it could be the start of major inflation that will get worse not better. Either way prices will be rising soon and this will include our product ranges. So large price increase and increased production times. Don't get caught out and this is one of the more prudent times to ensure you keep a good stock of spares to hand. If you think this is a way for us and others to increase our business and sales - I guess you can think that and that is your choice and judgement to make. Yes it could all blow over - but we are getting e-mails like below from across our suppliers. eg. Cannon have just told us prices are going up between 8% and 16% - lead times from 120 days to 180 days.. Please try to plan ahead - Without going into the economics of everything I can see this situation extending for the next couple of years.

Another boring vid on this boring topic but going to keep playing the record!

At my old yard chainsaw noise wasn't an issue for the neighbours when they moved in. I took down a couple of trees for them, milled them a mantle piece and table top - all good. A year later after their house was completed [as in done up completed] it became a problem.

I fell for this in the early days 'the publicity will be really good for you' - yeh right!... But never was asked to pay to be there - that's really pushing it!

They prob do if you go to their website - if not then we can ship to the US from our website https://www.chainsawbars.co.uk/manpa-tools/ Manpatools Corporation - HOME WWW.MANPATOOLS.COM Power carving tools, Carving class, Power gouge, Multi Grinder, woodcraft, Woodcarving, Woodcarver,Powercarving...

You can't mill bigger stuff with too small a bar - but yep you can do smaller stuff with a bigger bar.

It is for most - not for some. If you read the info here https://www.chainsawbars.co.uk/product/snhs42-50wr-42107cm-gb-lo-pro-milling-bar-3-8-lo-pro-050-137-drive-links-cuts-a-thinner-kerf-when-milling-timber-than-standard-chain/

Haha! well you are more used to withstanding my moodiness than most 😅

Note - arbtalk is handy to post stuff like this so I can copy and paste it later! I think it helps to understand the thinking behind the way things are the way they are..

This comes up all the time - so if I write the reasons on here then at least it'll help folks understand the whys and wherefores... It stems from this - we do free delivery on our website. While we do value our customers - this is not why there is free delivery. There is free delivery because [and bear in mind this is Rule of Thumb stuff - there are always exceptions.. and bear in mind when I am a customer I fit the below criteria as well!] Since Ebay and Amazon people hate it when they have to pay delivery on top of their order. In fact they hate it so much we have been told that 'paying £5.95+vat for delivery of a £7.70+vat rim is a rip-off mate' If a customer buys a small item of small value they expect to pay very little post and packing if any... If a customer buys a large order of large value they expect to pay little post and packing if any... If a customer makes an order - then thinks 'oh I missed something' there is anxiety in order to place another order and make sure that x2 lots of postage are not paid. If postage is free this removes this. Free postage removes the drama of trying to sort out the nitty gritty So that seems clear - why bother having a minimum order of £30-00? When we had no minimum order value we were getting orders of x1 wedge, x1 bar scabbard, x1 box of files which the cost of sending was almost the cost of the item... people were making x3 orders a week. These would often go Royal mail, sometimes go missing, and they would add to our work load in terms of packing and order fulfillment. So by putting £30-00+vat a customer has to order a few things at a time which is a better way for us to work Ok so why don't you add on a postage cost for smaller items so you are covered? I'm happy to pay for that... Answer - you may be happy to pay but most people really aren't and see it as you ripping them off with postage. And it raises the 'mate you could have sent this Royal Mail for £1.20 yet you charged £5.95? And you can never really get the charges right to meet different customer expectations To send by courier on a tracked service we need a customer to spend £30.00+vat minimum. If we think more efficient to send Royal Mail [large envelope goes through the door] we do so but we do so at our own risk not the customers... A few items are bulky but not expensive ie. 12" KH wedge, 36" Bar Scabbard - so that if these are ordered they often end up going by courier anyway and we lose money Understood, understood - so can I not pop in and pick up the couple of bits I need? Hmm another seemingly innocent request fraught with peril! This one is a somewhat sad reflection on how an internet business does not translate well into a bricks and mortar business... We don't really have a shop - we have an office and a warehouse. Most days right now we are absolutely flat out as in the team may take 15 minutes off for lunch but most days more like 5-10 minutes. There is nothing to look at at our place, no showroom, no products laid out, only boxes, and shelves of boxes, and staff running around with a manic glint in their eye... Our place is small, crowded and hectic with couriers driving in and out all day, the odd 12 tonner trying to turn around, the odd 18 tonner that can't turn around or driving over the landlord's daffodils... a full time wood working workshop creating dust and noise. The car park is small and it's not a pleasant environment to drive into most of the time Gathering an order for people takes concentration - and generally people are chatting away as you do it and mistakes are made. Then an hour later 'Hi, it took me an hour to drive down to you because I needed some chains urgently, just got back to fit them and they are too short!' All our orders are processed on the website - we have no card machine. Everything is in one place which works well but it is clumsy - if people come down to order we have to input it into the website as them, then let them sit down and put all their card details in. Our office is pretty small and crammed full of stuff... Myself [Rob] lives in Cornwall - and I tend to have the technical knowledge - I'm only there once a fortnight so Laurence will often be able to answer most questions but not all... [This is the sad part really...] Most people who want to pop in generally do so for the experience of talking and enjoying the process of their purchase as well as sharing knowledge with like minded people. And we are not able to do this well... so that is one of the downsides of what we do or one of the things that has been lost in what we do. The best we can offer as a substitute is whatsapp - which is a pretty poor substitute.

I'm getting into gardening this year - been researching something called bio char which doesn't seem that well known about... but they used it centuries ago in the Amazon. I'll post up progress here but in short you mash up some unadulterated charcoal - inoculate it with microbes [you can do this by creating compost and mixing]. Then add it in a ratio of around 10% to your soil. If you're feeling keen then you can watch this vid here - I am almost set up to make my first batch.