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N.o.s National Occupational Standards i'm intrigued who sits on this panel ? where does the industry representative voice come from ? HOWEVER this is only a preposed draft So Have YOUR say folks [email protected] ..

what are the implications for employers liability If an accident occurs & a court hearing is held. the judge would take note of the AFAg guidance, this indicates that nptc units are the recognised standard. if however those Coc units are severed due to the releaseof the new update as is implied (if done without any transition period) where are employers & employees left ? is it not illegal to operate without Employers liability ? ( would any current El not be void if you knowingly operated with non valid Coc qualified staff ?) Big questions for so late in the day could this "training" not be replaced by current on going development or continued employment. after all a cert of competence is not a validation to professional industry skill, that takes time & No training package I have been privileged to see has attempted to deliver that, which Experience gained from working within the trade gives

Chainsaw units previously achieved will continue to be valid after the revised Chainsaw Certificate of Competence units are released, provided regular refresher training has been undertaken the key word is Has past tense To what criteria How can this trainaing have been implemented if the criteria had not been given Do they mean continual use, industry practice or do they mean training if training By whom what are the implications for employers liability If an accident occurs & a court hearing is held. the judge would take note of the AFAg guidance this indicates that nptc units are a recognised standard if however those units are severed without a transition period where are employers & employees left ?

As tpo applys to the trees a recent regulation change that requires an arb report to support the application for works made under the T&C the reaction wood seems to be forming over the wound, though An inspection should be sought if you are giving advice to the client oh & yep as the guys said Genus etc

lets look at the simple logistics how many chainsaw operators on here 1500 - 2000 take most who will have 30 31 38 39 may have cs 32, woodchipper, stump grinder, pa1 & 6,mewp ua1 etc so lets take 1500 with an average of 6 COCs = 9000 retests / 3 yrs = 3000 re trains per annum just on here that equals 58 re trains per week every week no holidays or breaks thats just an ave guess of members on here alone, without taking into consideration the need to train Fe or HE students or new workers 2000 *8 Cocs / 3 year cycle on 5 day week without B/hols breaks = 102 re trains pw, week in week out. then factor the cost implication of down time & training costs Then factor in that those companys who comply & meet those implication still have to compete in the open market those shadier companies who dont comply with where we are know & dont seem to get caught or impuned ! We as an industry do need to develop. & I openly applaude that however A Coc is just that. Competance It is not reflective of industry experience, knowledge, commercial skill or speed Grand ma suckin eggs

you could Contact Nptc @ stoneleigh +44 (0) 24 7685 7300 ask the question re revoking Coc s

Oh No not again ! here we go basics Watch lots Listen to all Learn not to believe all Buy only what you can afford, Debt is a killer !!! Paperwork will rob you of your soul just because it shines doesnt mean its not a turd in the sunlight. there is a cavern of difference from being a good craftsman to running a business

Hello Mate if your goal is to secure larger contracts then my suggestion is to apply for some whewn you get the PQQ you will see the requiste info & accreditions that most require then backwards engineer your documents to fit In that way you may not qualify for those which you initially apply however it will be a good grounding for you !!! hope it helps if you want a chat pm me or ring the office ( See web ) iain Safety cant be under estimated , good working practices build a good operation which build credibility imo

I just dont believe what some people think is safe I drove past a spot yesterday 1 bloke up a ladder no harness 4 other bods wearing lumos milling around underneath whilst the guy up the ladder is cutting away at the tree. excellent photos by the way . surely it deserves an award I luv the third ladder the bloke needs to be spiderman to hang onto that one

quality child protection equal employment ops: inc gender,age, race discrimination complaint handling ,resolution work At height statements such as HAv's , puwer, mhasaw,equipment maintenace provision/ cyclical replacement

politics & religion areas in which its best to tread carefully my friend too many get really upperty about such things

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Oh no You've gone & done it now !

What He says !!!

So basically Is A tree surgeon a person, to whom someone else will happily pay a fee to carryout work to their own tree ?

Thx Chap But NO its not mine BUT it is wood its at a place called the foridden corner, a really nice place to take the kids located in the yorkshire dales http://www.theforbiddencorner.co.uk/

unfortunatley Anyone can generalise themself as a Tree surgeon if indeed they can alter the form of a tree There is no mandatory legal status or accreditation that makes you a tree surgeon or stops anyone from advertising their services as such However there are restrictions under how & if that work should be done Mhasaw, Puwer, Loler, Coshh, T&C plan act, ETc Etc

26 FEb 2009 http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b007nlgd/upcoming titled rogues up ladders Matt Allwright witnesses hair-raising moments with a chainsaw as rogue tree surgeons get to work in Wales. Can he put a halt to their boyish abandon and reckless disregard for health and safety?

Yep professional Liability that stands for 12mths

An interesting slant there my friend If your employer is paying for the course & is paying your wages to attend the course to give you knowledge & accreditation that enables YOU to reasonably & dilegently perform your duties for your & others safety Then be grateful Accept the course & then carry out your duties within the guidance that you have been trained & then you wont have a problem Or you could refuse the course ,which is a resonable request & promptly pick up your P45 Your choice , ME Id be thankful to have a job with a good employer .

Yep thats a very nice website you've got there I think someone else coined it earlier SLICK you should be well chuffed

good for a shed or garage, as for the house Our lass would say NO but never the less a good idea

Ow bloody hell that sounds aweful Sorry to here it how'd it happen ? did his lifeline not also go around the stem ? was he using a cambium saver just over a limb ?

get it inspected / speak to your dealer

the difference is MALLET . based on a persons none calibrated hearing and their perception of the tone Thermal Camera . based on current technology & evidential fact from a calibrated device cross referenced onto a known data base !