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Oh, and as for the "quite reasonable £140" they charge for the license you dont need, i will be booking a nice weekend away with the wife and young 'un. Recon i will get more satisfaction out of it:thumbup:

Nice one Dean, im with you. Just a shame all the confusion and uncertainty, has scared many into buying them:001_tt2:

Thats about the top and bottom of how i read it:thumbup1: Only thing i would say is, on a removal of a Leylandii it would be still classed as a "whole tree". Its clippings/trimmings from hedge cutting they dont allow. Another point is, sawdust is also classed as virgin, BUT it must not contain contaminants, such as soil or gravel etc. Careful raking needed then:001_huh: Consensus achieved:thumbup:

Tyres look a little solid Stevie:blushing: Is there an echo in here:001_rolleyes: I am real jelous really:thumbup:

Ok, dare say i am going to get a lashing for this(sorry Ian), here is a direct link. This is publically accessible http://www.environment-agency.gov.uk/static/documents/ps005_2077240.pdf Read on, and please feel free to comment. I feel it is very clear from this document what is what.

I realise there is lots of this confusion and cross-quoting, but i would like to add a quote directly from EA that i have in writing. I believe this is not confusing but in fact quite clear so i have a copy of this in each truck. Please note "Whole trees"; The Environment Agency’s position Virgin timber is timber from: • whole trees and the woody parts of trees including branches and bark derived from forestry works, woodland management, tree surgery and other similar operations (it does not include clippings or trimmings that consist primarily of foliage2); • virgin wood processing (e.g. wood offcuts, shavings or sawdust from sawmills) or timber product manufacture dealing in virgin timber. Virgin timbers are not waste and are not subject to waste regulatory controls provided they are certain to be used for purposes to which virgin wood is commonly put. These include use as: • woodchip in gardens or on pathways; • a raw material for composting; • animal bedding; • fuel in an appliance; • a raw material for the production of wood-based products or in paper production. But if virgin timber is mixed with waste timber or any other waste, the mixed load is classed as waste. So, my view is, if the EA dont see "whloe tree" woodchip and logs as "waste" a WCL is not needed.

On about my 5th pair of stihls now. just seem happy with them.

Hey Jen, not sure on the toxicity bit but the mushroom looks good! Nice one!

Whats wrong with chipping all small stuff and leave on site, log all timber and deliver to customer? My issue is, why does everyone think they need one if you only carry virgin clean timber? Its NOT waste!

Paul, why would you say we should have a waste carriers licence to carry clean virgin timber when the EA clearly states they do not view virgin timbers as "waste"?

I wish you well, but as many on here will tell you, green timber is worth around £45 per ton for firewood at the moment and wood turners tend to take very small amounts. I wish you well in your search though, nothing like a nice piece of walnut turned out well rather than being burned. The way thing are now unfortunately.

I know this will sound really brutal, but going on the e-mail you got, i would say if you win the contract you wont earn much money out of it! As others have said, price it to make a nice amount, and dont cut yourself short. There are no guarantees of the big future contract!

If you remove arisings from site it is classed as product or waste. If it is to be used again its not waste. If you take it away to burn, its not product, therefore you should have a waste carriers licence. Only trouble is, you cannot burn waste, so therefore you shouldnt be burning off site. You can however get an exemption to burn on site, but you cannot move it to another site, i.e. it must not be transported and must be untreated, vigin timber. Has that made it clear as mud:001_rolleyes:

:lol: Same as most of us then:001_rolleyes:

The lack of waste carriers is one thing, but does your company actually carry waste away and burn it? Thats what the :scared1: was for!

What he said. And him;

:scared1: I take it thats a wind up?

Nice! That looked pretty fast. Is the saw standard?

At 42 Im a bit from being finished i hope, but once you guys have settled the oldest, what will be next, the heaviest:001_rolleyes:

Part of what i learned many years ago, is that how you price now, is how you are expected to price in the future. Also any word of mouth you get from this job will be besed upon "Oh yeh, he was cheap enough, he came all this way and didnt charge any extra" "Getting your name out there" does have its benefits, but can also have down sides too if you seem overkeen to jump on a job.

Older and possibly wiser, but i would now rather price it as it should be priced. If you get the job, happy days. If you dont, stay at home, light the barby and have a couple of beers- you earned the same as if you priced it low! The unfotunate part of your type of pricing is that it encourages a downward spiral generally for everyone

Why would do a job that only "covers costs"?

Get the type of sqwerls you're on about now! Didnt realise that type of thing happened in Harrogate:001_tt2: Can you boobytrap/secure the store, it seems an extra expense and hassle to me?

They eat kindling round your way:confused1:

Is there a reason why you want to have a shed with sides Johnny?