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16 minutes ago, sime42 said:

 

Yep, I don't trust that Wes Streeting bloke much at all. I reckon he'll turn out to be even worse than Kier Starmer. Talking of cloths, they're both smurfs who've stolen Elmo's cloths.

 

 

 

 

 

 

The margin for Brexit was just shy of 2m people. 5m people who voted for Brexit were old and have since died. Given another referendum, I imagine we'd rejoin the EU. Then buy some guns to keep Rambo happy. 

 

I have a feeling that Kier Starmer was put in place to quell Corbyn and leave the way open for Streeting. Unfounded conjecture, but my thoughts, nonetheless.

 

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On 10/12/2025 at 16:57, openspaceman said:

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We knew we couldn't rely on fossil fuels beyond a few more generations, and then came  the problem from the surge in use of the atmosphere to dump the consequential CO2,  but resisted change for all my 3/4 of a century.

 

However, there is yet hope.

 

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26 minutes ago, Mark J said:

It doesn't matter where you put it. The same people who have fallen for the emperor with new clothes will still do what they can to belittle it, as they know that their horse is losing.

 

It looks like the horse of the fallen people is indeed losing. 

 

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14 minutes ago, Mark J said:

The margin for Brexit was just shy of 2m people. 5m people who voted for Brexit were old and have since died. Given another referendum, I imagine we'd rejoin the EU. Then buy some guns to keep Rambo happy.

 

Yes, I saw that last night somewhere.

Roughly 50-50 vote, the old voted 60-40 for Brexit, the young the other way, 40-60, balanced out with a tiny majority to Brexit. 5 million old people died, 5 million young people are able to vote now gives a theoretical remain majority of about 4 million if the vote was now - assuming those who have changed their minds either way balanced each other out. Considering that the young will inherit and want to be a part of the EU we should pay attention perhaps to this.

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How naive to think that the EU might just wave us back in! We will have to have the euro and we won’t retain the rebate either. The opt outs will be gone as well. They think they will have us over a barrel. So no-one hold your breath!

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58 minutes ago, Capetown said:

How naive to think that the EU might just wave us back in! We will have to have the euro and we won’t retain the rebate either. The opt outs will be gone as well. They think they will have us over a barrel. So no-one hold your breath!

I would fully expect such a move would bring out the worse kind of reaction,, and almost certainly result in a chaos that would be uncontainable.

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1 hour ago, Capetown said:

How naive to think that the EU might just wave us back in! We will have to have the euro and we won’t retain the rebate either. The opt outs will be gone as well. They think they will have us over a barrel. So no-one hold your breath!

 

This is true, we have lost all the concessions that Thatcher won for the UK, we would start again as a new member including things like taking the Euro. Once out, no going back under the same terms and conditions. If the politicians (listened to the current 'will of the people') worked to go back again I reckon all our past membership would give is a fast track membership.

 

The Brexit vote was a hastily thought thing to appease the Tory back benchers giving Cameron a hard time, his gamble failed, and as they say, act in haste, repent at leisure

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