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[Mark J]

1 hour ago, Rich Rule said:

And you believe anything that comes from the BBC News?

 

Anti semetic bunch of knobs who will peddle anything if it fits their agenda.

 

Did you not see the latest one about their manipulation of the timeline from Donald Trumps Speech before the riots and marching on congress.

 

Splicing together two clips that were 54 minutes apart to make it look like POTUS called in people to march and kill.

 

It almost caused a civil war in the US and many people fell for it.

 

 

 

 

Rich, with respect, Trump did actually call on his "Proud Boys" to assemble. 

Trump nearly caused a civil war. And he's having a go at starting another one. 

He doesn't give a toss about the little people.
 

Edited November 6 by Mark J

[sime42]

1 hour ago, Mike Hill said:

Violent Video games is my guess,also the lack of discipline at home.

 

Yes, that's a couple of big reasons I'd guess. Though I reckon sick, violent social media content is more influential than video games these days. 

 

Parental failure, lack of discipline and loss of control, at home seems to be a big factor so far in the Rudakubana case. 

 

 

[Rich Rule]

32 minutes ago, Mark J said:

Rich, with respect, Trump did actually call on his "Proud Boys" to assemble. 

Trump nearly caused a civil war. And he's having a go at starting another one. 

He doesn't give a toss about the little people.
 

That isn’t the point.  Trump isn’t worried about you, you shouldn’t be worried about him.

 

The point is this the BBC deliberately manipulated a narrative and spliced two totally unrelated parts of a speech which was over an hour long in order to make it seem something it wasn’t.

 

Do you remember the Andrew Tate interview the BBC did whilst he was under house arrest in Romania?

 

They released a completely doctored version of the interview which was full of leading questions.

 

Andrew Tate had his own film crew there recording the whole interview.  The BBC took their interview down quick sharpish after Tate released his version.  He had an idea that is what they would do and sure enough The BBC were at it again.

 

They have also been questioned over their Anti Semetic reporting of the Gaza Israel conflict.  
 

The list goes on.  The only thing I look at the BBC for is their sport coverage.  At least they would have trouble fabricating a bunch of lies about that.

 

 

[Joe Newton]

On 05/11/2025 at 11:15, AHPP said:

 

I know what the political and legal landscape looks like. I'm clearly talking about what could be and should be. And importantly, until very recently, has been. People had these rights not very long ago at all.

 

I'm not interested in Darren and Sharron. I'm interested in me (and then people I like). Criminals who want guns get them. Or knives. And if someone's got a knife, I want a gun.

 

I don't mind if you find guns bulky and can't cope with how they fit with your cute autumn short jackets. I'm talking about individual rights. You do what you want. I'll do what I want. I could carry safely. Loads of people could (and do). My facebook feed last week was for some reason full of women's carrying systems. The memorable one was a full size appendix carry that didn't print in a skirt. The woman could carry a child at the same time etc.

 

I'll say it again. It comes down to individual rights. You can't see it working. Fine. You don't have to. But you (anyone) shouldn't be telling other people (via voting for politicians who would cage decent people for carrying to protect themselves) that they shouldn't be allowed to do something just because you don't think you're capable of it. You wouldn't try to drive if you were blind but you wouldn't then tell me I shouldn't drive with my good eyesight.

 

And yes, @Stubby. I didn't say anything about licensing. That's its own issue. https://jpfo.org/filegen-a-m/about.htm

 

Alex, I like guns. I like pistols. If I lived in a place where handguns were commonly carried, I'd carry one to level the playing field.

 

In the UK concealable handguns are essentially restricted to police, armed forces and certain RFDs. If you open that up to the public every knife crime becomes a gun crime.

 

Can you tell me the last time a mass shooting was carried out in the UK with a handgun? I'm not aware of any since Dunblane, but i stand to be corrected.

 

 

[Mark J]

14 minutes ago, Rich Rule said:

That isn’t the point.  Trump isn’t worried about you, you shouldn’t be worried about him.

 

The point is this the BBC deliberately manipulated a narrative and spliced two totally unrelated parts of a speech which was over an hour long in order to make it seem something it wasn’t.

 

Do you remember the Andrew Tate interview the BBC did whilst he was under house arrest in Romania?

 

They released a completely doctored version of the interview which was full of leading questions.

 

Andrew Tate had his own film crew there recording the whole interview.  The BBC took their interview down quick sharpish after Tate released his version.  He had an idea that is what they would do and sure enough The BBC were at it again.

 

They have also been questioned over their Anti Semetic reporting of the Gaza Israel conflict.  
 

The list goes on.  The only thing I look at the BBC for is their sport coverage.  At least they would have trouble fabricating a bunch of lies about that.

 

 

Interesting framing. 

From my perspective, I see the BBC as being mostly right leaning. All that clatter with Corbyn juxtaposed with the Kremlin was no accident. 

There is a huge amount of money behind Andrew Tate, and it's not his money. 

BBC though, they do make some good nature shows, their local and national radio is top drawer, and sports coverage is canny too. 

Edited November 6 by Mark J

[Rich Rule]

9 minutes ago, Mark J said:

Interesting framing. 

From my perspective, I see the BBC as being mostly right leaning. All that clatter with Corbyn juxtaposed with the Kremlin was no accident. 

They do make some good nature shows though.

Not sure what you mean by Interesting Framing?

 

Enlighten me please, I am just a Northern Monkey.

 

Oh, they make good Nature shit as well.  

[Mark J]

1 hour ago, Rich Rule said:

Not sure what you mean by Interesting Framing?

 

Enlighten me please, I am just a Northern Monkey.

 

Oh, they make good Nature shit as well.  

I edited my post as you added yours: 

"Interesting framing. 

From my perspective, I see the BBC as being mostly right leaning. All that clatter with Corbyn juxtaposed with the Kremlin was no accident. 

There is a huge amount of money behind Andrew Tate, Joe Rogan, and more, and it's not their money. 

It is no coincidence that they are all aligned with bilionaire funded disinformation pipelines.

BBC though, they do make some good nature shows, their local and national radio is top drawer, and sports coverage is canny too. "

 

 

Edited November 6 by Mark J
Also a Monkey of the North.

[AHPP]

13 minutes ago, Joe Newton said:

Alex, I like guns. I like pistols. If I lived in a place where handguns were commonly carried, I'd carry one to level the playing field.

 

In the UK concealable handguns are essentially restricted to police, armed forces and certain RFDs. If you open that up to the public every knife crime becomes a gun crime.

 

Can you tell me the last time a mass shooting was carried out in the UK with a handgun? I'm not aware of any since Dunblane, but i stand to be corrected.

 

 

 

And every potential crime becomes potentially opposed by an armed goodie. Evenly distributed, quiet law enforcers who don't care what you write on twitter but don't want offences against people and property happening where they live.

 

But I don't want to argue that it's better for everybody. I want anyone who says people shouldn't carry to look into the eyes of an unarmed rape victim, mugging victim, violence victim etc and tell them their suffering was for the greater good. My view is built on respect for individuals to conduct their lives how they see fit. Bigger pictures then work themselves out. Unless of course you trust the people who make the rules about this sort of thing currently to decide what's best for everyone everywhere? And trust them to defend you since they've forbidden you from defending yourself.

 

UK shootings. No idea. London, probably one happening now. What does it matter anyway?

 

[tree-fancier123]

25 minutes ago, AHPP said:

What does it matter anyway?

you wrote it

[AHPP]

Joe wrote it.