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[Mark J]

31 minutes ago, Steven P said:

As far as I can tell here the objections are that they are something we don't have, something new. No practical downsides mentioned yet.

 

In France (closest example) and many other place you don't need to carry them - much the same that you don't need to carry a drives license to drive a car, but if you need to prove who you are you can grab the card and prove it. Digital just means, like the drivers licenses the authorities will have a database they can refer to. End of paper bills and the old "2 forms of ID, a recent utility bill" is tricker - so some digital system will be needed I think, so why not.

 

Anyway, waiting for practical downsides apart from not liking anything new.

Personally, I think that given the data-driven world we live in, the likelyhood of ID cards being integrated with everyday tasks is a real, and worrying prospect. Do really want to refused a burger because your ID says you obese?

Not something that should be encouraged. 

[AHPP]

It'll take some civil servant 5-10 minutes to leave it on a laptop in the back of a taxi. Then god knows.

[Mark J]

2 hours ago, Mesterh said:

The big question is, do they combine the asda reward card and the tesco clubcard into one entity though?

 

If not then im out.

 

Serious question as ive not looked into al this id card stuff, well I have in the sense that from what ive heard it will make medical care better but thats as much as I know. But what are the downsides to it all?

 

 

Terrible idea. Buy a smartwatch if you want tech to tell you off for living your life. 

I got one, it comfirmed everything my GP said was happening, so I gave it away and got a new doctor. 

The last thing we need in society is to be handing more and more of our data to big technology firms. 

(He says while freely posting on a site that likely uses AWS)...

 

Edited September 25 by Mark J

[Johnsond]

1 hour ago, Mesterh said:

OK easier to access and get better care. All of your medical history can be accessed quickly when you need treatment. As it is now its garbage. Digital ID will help with that. 

 

What do you think the downsides of digital ID are?

 

The version and its application issued initially will be very different to the version 5-10 years down the line. Combine it with everything else including the now frequently mooted pay per mile system ( a horrific idea) and you have a system the Chinese will envy. I saw enough from the same players who want and support this now during g the Covid farce to know it’s wrong. Labour should have put it in the manifesto if they wanted to implement it. 

[Mark J]

13 minutes ago, Johnsond said:

The version and its application issued initially will be very different to the version 5-10 years down the line. Combine it with everything else including the now frequently mooted pay per mile system ( a horrific idea) and you have a system the Chinese will envy. I saw enough from the same players who want and support this now during g the Covid farce to know it’s wrong. Labour should have put it in the manifesto if they wanted to implement it. 

Agreed. 

Reform seem to be liking the idea of ID cards, from what I've read.

Green Party/left coalition, for the win. 

Edited September 25 by Mark J

[Johnsond]

10 minutes ago, Mark J said:

Agreed. 

Reform seem to be liking the idea of ID cards, from what I've read.

Green Party/left coalition, for the win. 

Yeah I saw a survey showing reform voters in support. 
Create a problem offer a solution. Blair will be overjoyed. 

[billy_wizz]

1 hour ago, AHPP said:

It'll take some civil servant 5-10 minutes to leave it on a laptop in the back of a taxi. Then god knows.

Given the DVLA already sell information that your forced to give them (if you drive) how long will it be before there selling off the information on the id to fill the black hole?

[Mark J]

53 minutes ago, Johnsond said:

Yeah I saw a survey showing reform voters in support. 
Create a problem offer a solution. Blair will be overjoyed. 

^David Icke. 25 years ago. So put that in your tinfoil hat and smoke it.

I'm not suggesting you have a tinfoil hat, by the way. I am 100% against mandatory ID cards too.

I'm just saying that the games that those in power play, don't change.

Not that it matters, if you have a driving license, or a passport, they have your face on file. 

Edited September 26 by Mark J

[BillQ]

12 hours ago, Mick Dempsey said:

ID cards are still needed in Germany. 

And armed forces, some places of work too, and that's to stop those who have no right to enter...hey wait a minute!

Sounds like a plan.

[PeteB]

15 hours ago, PeteB said:

I see that Two Tier is going to introduce compulsory ID cards in the near future to stop illegal immigration and workers etc. What a joke, they haven't the stones to do this!

"This to be in place by the end of the decade" Wow. This lot work really fast. Sounds like "let's pass this hot potato to the next lot". Or, "unless we tax everyone even more to hide this statement,  the voters will forget another promise we cannot make!"