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[kevinjohnsonmbe]

11 minutes ago, scotspine1 said:

Kev, in the battle between Palestine and Israel I support Palestine. 
 

As an British nationalist you should too. 
 

Imagine the E.U. invaded Britain and attempted to build settlements for Europeans in order to ethnically cleanse the native British from their homelands. 
 

How would you like that? 
 

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I don’t believe for 1 minute you see it as a binary Israel / Palestine situation. 
 

I prefer to view it as a bully v oppressed scenario and any ‘normal’ sentient human should naturally side with the oppressed. 
 

It suits the cause of the bully to punt the misrepresentation of Palestine being oppressed by Israel.
 

Zooming out a touch provides much greater clarity but takes a bit more effort than posting a picture of a child in front of a tank. 
 

 

[Mark J]

40 minutes ago, kevinjohnsonmbe said:

The tank wouldn’t need to be there if the prescribed terrorist organisation masquerading as an incompetent, incapable ‘government’ wasn’t sending women and children out to do its filthy propaganda grabbing work. 
 

Nevermind though, there are plenty of gullible muppets willing to peddle their false narrative. 
 

I’ll be suitably pissed off if my Nov Israel trip is disrupted. 

You speak of organisations masquerading as governments, sending their women to infiltrate us:
 

Priti Patel, previously ousted over Israel meetings, named UK home secretary

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Dominic Raab to serve as new foreign secretary, Sajid Javid appointed chancellor of the exchequer, as Boris Johnson...

 

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[scotspine1]

6 minutes ago, kevinjohnsonmbe said:

I don’t believe for 1 minute you see it as a binary Israel / Palestine situation. 

I do. It is a binary situation. 
 

I support the Palestinians. 
 

I support their right to self determination and their right to defend their homeland from an aggressive neighbour who is in the process of attempting to carry out the ethnic cleansing of the Palestinian people from Palestine. 
 

 

 

[Mark J]

13 minutes ago, scotspine1 said:

By that logic you concede English nationalism to be as equally valid as Palestinian nationalism and both worthy of unquestioning support when it comes to defending your people and your homeland where you have lived for generations. 
 

We got there in the end. 
 

Thank you. 
 

 

I think Nationalism is a mugs game. I'll always stand up for the oppressed. 

[scotspine1]

2 minutes ago, Mark J said:

I think Nationalism is a mugs game. I'll always stand up for the oppressed. 

Nationalism and ‘the oppressed’ are not mutually exclusive Mark. Countless examples from history of oppressed peoples and nations who’s nationalist goals were achieved through nationalist sentiment. 
 

The 1916 Easter Rising for example.
 

 

[Mark J]

32 minutes ago, scotspine1 said:

Nationalism and ‘the oppressed’ are not mutually exclusive Mark. Countless examples from history of oppressed peoples and nations who’s nationalist goals were achieved through nationalist sentiment. 
 

The 1916 Easter Rising for example.
 

 

Fair enough.

 

Edited May 16, 2021 by Mark J

[Johnsond]

Britons asked to plant trees across the country to mark the Queen's platinum jubilee

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Well I guess the prices will be on the up soon. 

[sime42]

You can be a leftist and a nationalist 
 
Stalin for example. 
 
leftism and nationalism are not mutually exclusive. 
 

 
 

Thanks for the lesson on isms and ists! It's all a bit us and them though isn't it?

There's actually a lot more to life than being part of a tribe. You should try to experience the world outside the pond, and away from the keyboard, now and again. Being in a herd isn't necessary.

[scotspine1]

1 hour ago, sime42 said:

There's actually a lot more to life than being part of a tribe.

The tribe is strong, the collective is strong, the nation is strong - the atomised, isolated individual is weak, he may have deluded himself into thinking he lives a more free life than the tribe but he lives in a world where the rules are set by the tribe. 
 

The ‘free’ individual has the sword of Damocles suspended over his ‘empowering free life’. Wether the sword drops at any time is at the will and whim of the tribe. 
 

Imagine the Palestinians as atomised individuals disinterested in their tribal loyalties - they would’ve been crushed by the Israelis decades ago. The strength of the Palestinian tribe means they still exist today and that same tribal loyalty will mean they still exist in another 1000 years. 
 

You have a weak grasp of history and human behaviour. 
 

 

 

[trigger_andy]

56 minutes ago, sime42 said:

Thanks for the lesson on isms and ists! It's all a bit us and them though isn't it?

There's actually a lot more to life than being part of a tribe. You should try to experience the world outside the pond, and away from the keyboard, now and again. Being in a herd isn't necessary.

Oh, 42’s seen which way the winds blowing again and is offering up some verbal diarrhoea to feel included.  Bless.