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Posted (edited)
10 minutes ago, Mark J said:

Think marmite there is no middle ground. In the same way you either love or hate marmite you can never sometime just fancy a little bit of fascism.

That wasn't really what I was driving at.  I simply don't think Fascism even exists in our times.  Antifa as a title for a movement has come about partly due to the fact that 'fascist' is deemed to be a particularly insulting term that aims to give moral superiority to the Antifa movement and the opposite to those on the receiving end.  In reality, those people are not Fascists - racists and biogots possibly.  But also a lot of the time they are just people who espouse competing views and policies.

 

And I do like Marmite a great deal.  But sometimes I don't fancy it.  It doesn't go well on my cornflakes, for example.

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41 minutes ago, Mark J said:

No, all I've done is call out that when Donald Trump declared ANTIFA to be a terrorist organisation, he was basically decaring war on anyone who wasn't a fascist.
 

 

You've been indoctrinated, that's ok. It can happen to some people. 

 

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42 minutes ago, Sutton said:

I'm old, failed at school and only got political after brexit so am well behind the curve. Would appreciate your views on this:

Donald Trump has declared war on US democracy. Can he be stopped?

Of course he can be stopped. They have a strong constitution and enough good sensible people to make sure democracy is safe, you are seeing this  with the public statements already given by sensible government officials. The liberal left or extreme right won’t see it like that nor will Mark.  

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13 hours ago, Puffingbilly413 said:

I think it's impossible to be either pro or anti as Fascism no longer really exists.  Racism and bigotry still exist, granted.  But Fascism at a societal or governmental level disappeared with the end of WW2. In my view of course.

 

What about ISIS? They're a bunch of fascists who, until recently, existed.
Of course fascism is alive and well, it's actively being encouraged.

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32 minutes ago, Johnsond said:

Of course he can be stopped. They have a strong constitution and enough good sensible people to make sure democracy is safe, you are seeing this  with the public statements already given by sensible government officials. The liberal left or extreme right won’t see it like that nor will Mark.  

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It seems there are some people who can take his rattle away.

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1 hour ago, Mark J said:

What about ISIS? They're a bunch of fascists who, until recently, existed.
Of course fascism is alive and well, it's actively being encouraged.

No - ISIS were/are a bunch of fanatical religious fundamentalists.  But not fascists.  You provided a link to a webpage above somewhere that covered the meaning of fascism.  Have another look at it.

 

I realise this might seem overly pendantic, but when one group or another seeks to discredit or shut down an alternative point of view or way of living by using inaccurate and arguably inflammatory terminology, it just weakens their argument at best and makes them seem unhinged at worst.

 

Trump and his ilk are many things, but to consider them fascist is just factually incorrect.  Such a perspective even serves in a way to play down the horrors visited upon the world by the Axis powers in WW2.

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