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[tree-fancier123]

2 hours ago, TIMON said:

 

A lot of ‘conscientious objectors’ went on the front lines and carried stretchers.

 

 

Thats not good enough - the country needed them to be willing to kill

[tree-fancier123]

2 hours ago, TIMON said:

 

A lot of ‘conscientious objectors’ went on the front lines and carried stretchers.

 

 

Thats not good enough - the country needed them to be willing to kill

[Sutton]

See

https://www.quora.com/How-many-enemy-soldiers-did-the-average-soldier-kill-in-WW2

 

... turns out not many soldiers in WW2 actually saw action ie combat

[peds]

On 09/10/2018 at 20:30, tree-fancier123 said:

He was no more cowardly than all the wartime concientious objectors, cant beleive they let them get away with it.

I’m not really sure you understand the reasons behind the First World War and who was fighting who.

 

We’ve had all sorts of conflicts in our country’s history, many of them completely justified, but WW1 does not rank among them. It was an entirely avoidable war which should never have started, and should the same circumstances present themselves again today, absolutely anyone with a few spare ounces of grey matter would count themselves as a conscientious objector.

 

Unlike, say, World War Two or the Falklands War, where despite a bit of undeniable bad behaviour from everyone involved, there were fairly clear-cut good guys and bad guys, in World War One there was no side with the moral high ground, and you cannot possibly take issue with the people not wanting any part of such nonsense as the aristocratic dick-measuring contests between a bunch of inbred royals.

 

I’d object the fuck out of WW1 if I were there, conscientiously and loudly.

Edited October 10, 2018 by peds
Inserting a quote

[openspaceman]

1 minute ago, peds said:

but WW1 does not rank among them. It was an entirely avoidable war which should never have started,

I agree  and the consequence of the terms of the armistice probably led to why a dictator was able to take control of Germany and cause the next one but it's spilt milk.

[TIMON]

https://health.mil/Military-Health-Topics/Military-Medical-History/Military-Health-Medal-of-Honor-Recipients/World-War-II-Recipients/Pfc-Desmond-T-Doss

 

 

This was in response to tree-fanciers comment.

[Yournamehere]

55 minutes ago, tree-fancier123 said:

 

Thats not good enough - the country needed them to be willing to kill

And when the whole country is shouting, "KILL, KILL, I WANNA KILL, WOMEN AND BABIES AND GERMANS AN ANYONE ELSE WHO LOOKS A BIT DIFFERENT" it takes an incredibly brave person to stand up and say, "No. This is wrong."

 

[westphalian]

A bit like disagreeing with Eggs. George Cross stuff

[Squaredy]

10 hours ago, peds said:

 

I’m not really sure you understand the reasons behind the First World War and who was fighting who.

 

We’ve had all sorts of conflicts in our country’s history, many of them completely justified, but WW1 does not rank among them. It was an entirely avoidable war which should never have started, and should the same circumstances present themselves again today, absolutely anyone with a few spare ounces of grey matter would count themselves as a conscientious objector.

 

Unlike, say, World War Two or the Falklands War, where despite a bit of undeniable bad behaviour from everyone involved, there were fairly clear-cut good guys and bad guys, in World War One there was no side with the moral high ground, and you cannot possibly take issue with the people not wanting any part of such nonsense as the aristocratic dick-measuring contests between a bunch of inbred royals.

 

I’d object the fuck out of WW1 if I were there, conscientiously and loudly.

You have got me curious I must read up more about World War One.  Any suggested good books?  

 

By the way I think the Falklands war was also very avoidable.  Thing is it appears Mrs Thatcher didn’t want to avoid it.

[westphalian]

I read a good book on ww1 wanting to know how it started. No real answer, everyone just drifted into it but basically it was the Kaiser