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[Mark J]

47 minutes ago, Johnsond said:

I’m sure you do but the whole free uni for all lie in Scotland is what I’m on about. Not how or what you did or paid for. It’s yet another bit of good work by the SNP pr team. 

Are prescriptions still free up there?

Fingers crossed your new party gets in and you won't have to deal with SNP anymore. 
Best of luck!

Edited April 22, 2022 by Mark J

[Johnsond]

25 minutes ago, Mark J said:

Are prescriptions still free up there?

Fingers crossed your new party gets in and you won't have to deal with SNP anymore. 
Best of luck!

Dear me Mark are you on your bloody period this week. They are not my new party as well you know. 
Prescriptions should be free for those whom genuinely need them,  those whom can afford too should pay and i include myself in that  category. The biggest beneficiary from free prescriptions are the drug companies themselves. On the other side of the coin you may not be aware of the current number of cottage hospital closures currently being forced through up here by the SNP !!. You like many others looking in think Scotland is some kind of SNP managed socialist paradise, in reality  it’s far far from that up here. As I keep saying the pr machine behind the current government and a very cooperative media make for a totally biased view. 

Edited April 22, 2022 by Johnsond

[Mark J]

13 minutes ago, Johnsond said:

Dear me Mark are you in your bloody period this week. They are not my new party as well you know. 
Prescriptions should be free for those whom genuinely need them, for those whom can afford it yet should pay and include myself intact category. The biggest beneficiary from free prescriptions are the drug companies themselves. On the other side of the coin you may not be aware of the current number of cottage hospital closures currently being forced through up here by the SNP !!.

Aye well, swings and roundabouts, at last the gov down here are building forty new hospitals which will probably end up benefitting the drug companies too, in a roundabout way; a bit like how the new super-prisons they're building will massively line the pockets of Serco and the like and do little in terms of actual rehabilitation. 

Anyhow, I hope you get your gripe with the SNP sorted out. 

 

[Johnsond]

35 minutes ago, Mark J said:

Aye well, swings and roundabouts, at last the gov down here are building forty new hospitals which will probably end up benefitting the drug companies too, in a roundabout way; a bit like how the new super-prisons they're building will massively line the pockets of Serco and the like and do little in terms of actual rehabilitation. 

Anyhow, I hope you get your gripe with the SNP sorted out. 

 

No gripe bud they are shit 🤷‍♂️Plain and simple that’s  it. 
I know about Serco Mark,my sister is currently being hounded to swap over from an old HMP contract to a new serco deal, like my own experience with the RMT she is finding her union utterly hopeless. 

[Mark J]

4 hours ago, Johnsond said:

No gripe bud they are shit 🤷‍♂️Plain and simple that’s  it. 
I know about Serco Mark,my sister is currently being hounded to swap over from an old HMP contract to a new serco deal, like my own experience with the RMT she is finding her union utterly hopeless. 

That's how I feel about the current gov. 

I have a good mate who is a copper, the pension changeover shenanigans have meant that he's stayed in the job longer than planned, the Gov only relented on proposed changes when they tried and failed to do the same with Judges and the Fire Brigade. Funny that the judiciary can make things happen.

Unions have helped me out of a pickle when I was employed, I work for myself now so don't have that expectation that anyone will have my back if things don't go to plan.

 

Edited April 22, 2022 by Mark J

[difflock]

Prescriptions should be free for those whom genuinely need them.

 

Good luck with that one!

Who judges? How?

[trigger_andy]

Just now, difflock said:

Prescriptions should be free for those whom genuinely need them.

 

Good luck with that one!

Who judges? How?

I agree, its not possible and those that are actually paying for the prescriptions (because nothing is ever "free") are the higher tax payer who would be then paying twice

 

Norway has a good system where everyone pays for their Doctors (and even A&E) visits and their prescriptions up to a certain threshold then its "free", its something like £300 a year or something

 

Cant pay for your A&E? Then you dont get seen, my wife had a nasty cut to the bone with a Mitre Chop Saw, I had to go home and enter the payment details at A&E before they even started the process of seeing us (as far as I can remember)

 

This keeps those who make needless visits to the Docs and A&E to a minimum and not turning up for an appointment is also charged so this is not so much of an issue as it is in the UK- You only take the prescriptions you actually need and not have cupboard full of pointless repeat prescriptions

 

Its funny how a supposedly left leaning Country has put in place many policies that would be seen as extremely right-wing over here 

[Mick Dempsey]

24 minutes ago, trigger_andy said:

I agree, its not possible and those that are actually paying for the prescriptions (because nothing is ever "free") are the higher tax payer who would be then paying twice

 

Norway has a good system where everyone pays for their Doctors (and even A&E) visits and their prescriptions up to a certain threshold then its "free", its something like £300 a year or something

 

Cant pay for your A&E? Then you dont get seen, my wife had a nasty cut to the bone with a Mitre Chop Saw, I had to go home and enter the payment details at A&E before they even started the process of seeing us (as far as I can remember)

 

This keeps those who make needless visits to the Docs and A&E to a minimum and not turning up for an appointment is also charged so this is not so much of an issue as it is in the UK- You only take the prescriptions you actually need and not have cupboard full of pointless repeat prescriptions

 

Its funny how a supposedly left leaning Country has put in place many policies that would be seen as extremely right-wing over here 

The NHS is a bit of an anachronism in that way.

 

In France, supposedly a far more socialist leaning country, there are all sorts of extra charges and top up insurances necessary to get total medical care.

 

 

 

 

[difflock]

The other side of our free prescriptions, and I had this from a mechanic that I used to work with, is that those working to claim their free DLA car, run to the Dr. "bigging up" if not downright inventing their ailments, and carting away the free prescriptions issued, which free prescriptions, obtained for these purposes were then binned, sure they cost nothing. But hey! the proved these folk were really really really sick, and needed their benefits, and more benefits, up to and including the DLA car.

That is the problem with our free at the point of delivery NHS.

P.S.

I wonder has anyone managed to blagg the DLA car AND the extra weekly payment for being a registered alcoholic? That would be kinda neat in a rather preverse way.

EDIT

Now that mental health issues, no doubt including for "social anxiety" qualify one for various benefits(the new "bad back" I suppose) our flagrant abuse of the DLA/PIP cars can only get worse. So so easy to abuse.

Edited April 23, 2022 by difflock

[Johnsond]

5 minutes ago, difflock said:

The other side of our free prescriptions, and I had this from a mechanic that I used to work with, is that those working to claim their free DLA car, run to the Dr. "bigging up" if not downright inventing their ailments, and carting away the free prescriptions issued, which free prescriptions, obtained for these purposes were then binned, sure they cost nothing. But hey! the proved these folk were really really really sick, and needed their benefits, and more benefits, up to and including the DLA car.

That is the problem with our free at the point of delivery NHS.

P.S.

I wonder has anyone managed to blagg the DLA car AND the extra weekly payment for being a registered alcoholic? That would be kinda neat in a rather preverse way.

The DLA free car lunacy is an industry of its own. Has to be one of the most abused parts of our healthcare set up by far. I know of 5-6 people running them, one a family member whom are genuinely taking the piss.