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[Mark J]

Charlie Kirk refused Netanyahu funding offer, was ‘frightened’ by pro-Israel forces before death, friend reveals - The Grayzone

THEGRAYZONE.COM

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A Trump insider and longtime friend of Charlie Kirk tells The Grayzone how the assassinated conservative leader’s turning point on Israeli influence provoked a private backlash from...

 

[Mike Hill]

1 hour ago, Steve Bullman said:

Well Elon Musk didn't pull any punches in his litle slot did he 😂

 

Where did you see that Steve?

[Steve Bullman]

The big rally in London today. I expect there will be snippets online before long 

[tree-fancier123]

1 hour ago, Mark J said:

Charlie Kirk refused Netanyahu funding offer, was ‘frightened’ by pro-Israel forces before death, friend reveals - The Grayzone

THEGRAYZONE.COM

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A Trump insider and longtime friend of Charlie Kirk tells The Grayzone how the assassinated conservative leader’s turning point on Israeli influence provoked a private backlash from...

 

I wasn't impressed by Charlie Kirk's performance at the Oxford Union - too much up Trump's arse. And that bit in support of the Jan 6 mob.

However that snippet in the link you posted where he's talking to Ben Shapiro shows Kirk in a different light - in that one as he asked about ethnic cleansing claims in Gaza you could see he was obviously a supporter of Israel, but not someone who felt Israel should just be allowed to do anything in Gaza.

Maybe the wealthy jewish donors were trying to use him as a mouthpiece, and he was pushing back.

 

[Johnsond]

Trump rages at NATO to stop buying Russian oil in bid to end Ukraine war

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President Donald Trump has raged at the leaders of Nato to stop buying Russian oil - indicating he will not...

He’s not far wrong unfortunately. 

[Whoppa Choppa]

11 hours ago, 5thelement said:

Horseshit.

 

8 hours ago, sime42 said:

 

Bullshit 

 

Haha. The truth. They don't like it up em.

 

5 hours ago, sime42 said:

This is a good discussion of the wider picture, if anyone is interested. 

 

Charlie Kirk shooting: another grim milestone in America’s long and increasingly dangerous story of political violence

THECONVERSATION.COM

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Increasing polarisation and a lack of measured debate is fuelling violence in a nation awash with guns.

 

 

and yet I possess a strong moral compass and principles.

 

That's debatable 

 

[tree-fancier123]

On 10/09/2025 at 22:05, Whoppa Choppa said:

Whichever oxygenless womb of evil filth you were conceived in, whichever iniquitous swamp in which your mush head grew, 

 

Take it a long walk off a short plank 

 

You absolute fking SCUM

if insults are 1 to 10 with 1 harmless and 10 the worst, maybe that can be given a score of 6.5

[Steven P]

7 hours ago, sime42 said:

This is a good discussion of the wider picture, if anyone is interested. 

 

Charlie Kirk shooting: another grim milestone in America’s long and increasingly dangerous story of political violence

THECONVERSATION.COM

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Increasing polarisation and a lack of measured debate is fuelling violence in a nation awash with guns.

 

 

Reading this, I would tend to agree with the conclusion - should be rejecting violence as an answer - noting that the previous 3 or 4 presidents set out statements this week condoning the attack, imploring this sentiment - the current presidents tone was very very different - he thrives on divisive politics, 'Us vs Them' works well for him but pushes the extremes both ways.. and the further apart the left and right become then more people will decide that direct action such as this is the only solution.

 

No, divisive politics doesn't work... and instead should be working together to go for a common goal that is not "they are bad, they support the opposing party", but perhaps "we are all people, lets all be the best people that we can".

[AHPP]

Politicians should shut the fck up. Politics is statehood which is violence. Don't pay your TV licence. Ignore the court process. Fight the coppers who come to cage you. They'll eventually shoot you if you fight back hard enough. Politicians are fine with political violence as long as it isn't directed at them.

[sime42]

2 hours ago, tree-fancier123 said:

if insults are 1 to 10 with 1 harmless and 10 the worst, maybe that can be given a score of 6.5

 

Fairly scored I feel. This on the other hand was disappointing; 2.5 at best I feel.

 

2 hours ago, Whoppa Choppa said:

 

 

Haha. The truth. They don't like it up em.