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[tree-fancier123]

13 minutes ago, sime42 said:

 

Foregone conclusion. 

better, QED was a bit off, but I was excited to see the reply I had predicted.

See I agree with Johnsod that Hamas are brutes, but he will not say anything negative about how Israeli treatment of the Palestinians for decades has been equally brutal, arguably far worse, as Israel has the US to bulk them up on steroids

 

Lebensraum 

[Johnsond]

You reap what you sow 👍👍

“ I was excited to see the reply I predicted 😂😂” I didn’t see any predictions ?? But hey there’s some exciting lives being lived it would seem. Excuse me if I don’t get overly worked up today. 

Edited 15 hours ago by Johnsond

[Squaredy]

1 hour ago, Steven P said:

.. Farage in power will lead to a sell off of the NHS, will lead to censorship of the press, will lead to a higher national debt... and from that an increased tax burden on us all for many years to come,

About time the NHS was shaken up, so let’s hope something like this happens.  I deeply resent having to fund the NHS and the BBC (amongst others).  They don’t work and the reason there are no real choices (with health anyway) is the very fact that we are all forced to fund them.

As for higher national debt, press censorship and incompetence, how would you describe the current and previous government?!  The only reason that Farage is flying in the polls is the huge unrest with the current system brought about by our two main parties.

[AHPP]

Music to my libertarian ears. Extremely pleasant surprise to hear it from Wales. I live in a statist swamp too.

[Steven P]

12 hours ago, Squaredy said:

About time the NHS was shaken up, so let’s hope something like this happens.  I deeply resent having to fund the NHS and the BBC (amongst others).  They don’t work and the reason there are no real choices (with health anyway) is the very fact that we are all forced to fund them.

 

Of course, your view, but worldwide the NHS and BBC are still up there among the best... and far better than the US system that Farage would favour.

 

For healthcare we have an option though, free at the point of use and paid for by tax or land you with a massive bill when you are least able to work and pay for it... example here - I think most of us have children, might make you think twice knowing that they land you with a $20k bill just for being born. A good chance a lot of us will get a cancer in our lives... and a US style $100k+ on our doorstep. I'd be guessing that a lot pensioners will not have private health insurance as a part of their pension... so any end of life care and guess what... that bill, again could be $100k+ depends on the care needed.... comes right off the inheritance.

 

So my opinion, different to yours is that the free at point of use model we have is probably the best. 

 

As for "don't work"... explain how they don't work - NHS generally works though there are specific cases - always will be - where it didn't work. In politics I think in all my life the politicians campaign on "fix the NHS" - so either the last many years have been led by incompetent health ministers or "fix the NHS" is just another cheap opposition politician line trying to get votes.

[Mark J]

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The police arrested more terrorists in London today. This elderly lady was supporting Palestine Action..

 

[AHPP]

37 minutes ago, Steven P said:

 

Of course, your view, but worldwide the NHS and BBC are still up there among the best... and far better than the US system that Farage would favour.

 

For healthcare we have an option though, free at the point of use and paid for by tax or land you with a massive bill when you are least able to work and pay for it... example here - I think most of us have children, might make you think twice knowing that they land you with a $20k bill just for being born. A good chance a lot of us will get a cancer in our lives... and a US style $100k+ on our doorstep. I'd be guessing that a lot pensioners will not have private health insurance as a part of their pension... so any end of life care and guess what... that bill, again could be $100k+ depends on the care needed.... comes right off the inheritance.

 

So my opinion, different to yours is that the free at point of use model we have is probably the best. 

 

As for "don't work"... explain how they don't work - NHS generally works though there are specific cases - always will be - where it didn't work. In politics I think in all my life the politicians campaign on "fix the NHS" - so either the last many years have been led by incompetent health ministers or "fix the NHS" is just another cheap opposition politician line trying to get votes.

Yes. There’s how we do it in the UK and how they do it in the US. No other choices or variations exist or can exist. 

[Mark J]

14 hours ago, Johnsond said:

Going well I see 

 

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Daily Mail say today we need Farage and Reform to save the country. A reminder of the role the Mail played in getting us into this mess..

 

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[sime42]

14 hours ago, Johnsond said:

More mind readers than I had realised on here. I know one or two have claimed that ability in the past but they had gone quiet for a while. 
I could put up a few Hamas videos of them beheading women and children on that day  if anyone is interested in “narratives”

 

No thanks, not interested. Yes, I'm sure you could do that, but to what end? It wouldn't do this site any favours that's for sure. I don't suppose anyone else wants to see content like that either. Why do you watch stuff like that? Plus you'd be doing the terrorists a favour, publicity is what they want. 

No one is disputing the fact that Hamas , the terrorist group, committed atrocities. You missed the point here somehow. If you actually watched that video, or similar, you might be able to understand the assertions that the presenters are making. 

[Oldfeller]