Making the news today....

[Johnsond]

Over 700 today and 9000 this year so far at £42000 per head. Smashing the gangs is obviously failing miserably. 
The desperate scramble to source coking coal is another example of the lunacy of this government’s policy 

[sime42]

19 minutes ago, Stubby said:

No crime as far as I can tell . Its not felled anyway . They have made it into a veteran pollard maybe ? Also I see notices attached to the trunk .  

 

True enough. It just seems a shame to have carried out such a brutal pollard operation on a decent looking tree, unless there was a valid reason. It'll be interesting to see the details come out on the story. Probably authorised by an office bod somewhere, who's never seen the tree.

 

 

[Stubby]

29 minutes ago, sime42 said:

 

True enough. It just seems a shame to have carried out such a brutal pollard operation on a decent looking tree, unless there was a valid reason. It'll be interesting to see the details come out on the story. Probably authorised by an office bod somewhere, who's never seen the tree.

 

 

I going with there being a valid reason .

[sime42]

M and B, who own a Toby Carvery nextdoor, thought it was dead. So I've just heard. I reckon they saw a photo of it in the winter.

 

 

[Treewolf]

1 hour ago, redmoosefaction said:

No tpo, no conservation, leased land to private company, nothing to see hear.. have the number plates been taken off? Perhaps go and ask smart platforms from Hemel who rented their cherry picker on that date🤣.. It's not difficult.

The number plates are visible in other reports. Apparently Toby Carvery which leases the land from the council engaged contractors to fell the tree for "health and safety" reasons. It seems no-one contacted the land-owner nor sought permission, and the Police are investigating possible criminal damage.

 

No TPO apparently because the LA owns the land.

 

I don't think slaughtering a healthy tree of huge ecological importance counts as corporate manslaughter (treeslaughter?) but hopefully a substantial fine may serve as a warning to others.

Edited April 15 by Treewolf

[Stubby]

1 minute ago, sime42 said:

M and B, who own a Toby Carvery nextdoor, thought it was dead. So I've just heard. I reckon they saw a photo of it in the winter.

 

 

So did Toby carve it down ? 🙂

[Mesterh]

1 hour ago, Johnsond said:

Over 700 today and 9000 this year so far at £42000 per head. Smashing the gangs is obviously failing miserably. 
The desperate scramble to source coking coal is another example of the lunacy of this government’s policy 

I was having a Google about coal mines. Less than 200 mill and it will only take two years o bottle a new one. That looks like a no brainer to me, UK jobs and your not transporting it from the other side of the world.

Ok it was just a Google search so it could be bollocks but if it isn't then it's got to be a must.

The more I read about what China has setup for the long haul then the more I think that we really need to sort sht out asap.

 

 

 

[Decro]

Even if we build/open a new coal mine we are still dependent on importing iron ore. One of the main sources of iron ore is Australia where China has enormous investments.

Back to square one?

[Johnsond]

18 minutes ago, Decro said:

Even if we build/open a new coal mine we are still dependent on importing iron ore. One of the main sources of iron ore is Australia where China has enormous investments.

Back to square one?

Surely solving one part of the problem is better than doing nothing. Currently we are on a steady decline to the bottom. The UK is not without iron ore neither. 

Edited April 15 by Johnsond

[Johnsond]

28 minutes ago, Mesterh said:

I was having a Google about coal mines. Less than 200 mill and it will only take two years o bottle a new one. That looks like a no brainer to me, UK jobs and your not transporting it from the other side of the world.

Ok it was just a Google search so it could be bollocks but if it isn't then it's got to be a must.

The more I read about what China has setup for the long haul then the more I think that we really need to sort sht out asap.

 

 

 

100% Agree the current net zero path we are on is a dangerous ideology driven example of sheer lunacy. 
I watched an article on the news last night about the 2035 commercial vehicle electrification target, Nestle I think it was running a trial on Volvo tractor units.

Standard diesel unit £170000 GTW 44T with a range of 800 miles on one tank. 

Electric unit £300000 GTW 28T with a range of 130mile max “ with a large amount of variables thrown in”.