Making the news today....

[sime42]

5 hours ago, trigger_andy said:

Did you forget about mass migration? Weird how thats not on your exhaustive list.

 

And how does an ensuite toilet contribute? Its not like if there is not one installed that you need to go to the toilet any less frequently. Its not like as if another family member is using the only government sanctioned toilet in the house that the dump you badly needed suddenly vanishes. 

 

 

Why you're pushing for the UK population to live in some kind of dystopian almost Matrix style Rabbit Hutch's stacked in uniform little rows is anyone's guess. 

 

Are you guilty of any of the crimes you list above? Or is it just other people that should submit to less showering, only living in a terraced house, no ensuite in your house? 

 

If you're not guilty of any of the above it sounds more like sour grapes than anything. 

Think you're still missing the point, but no worries if you want to focus on toilets and dumping! Which kind of brings us back full circle funnily enough;- there's already too many dumps in our rivers, and that's now set to get even worse with this piece of news that started this topic. Good work.

 

[trigger_andy]

1 hour ago, sime42 said:

Think you're still missing the point, but no worries if you want to focus on toilets and dumping! Which kind of brings us back full circle funnily enough;- there's already too many dumps in our rivers, and that's now set to get even worse with this piece of news that started this topic. Good work.

 

Your 'point' somehow failed to mention arguably the single biggest contributor to the housing crisis in the UK which is mass migration yet at the same time included en suites as a cause and you're still unable to explain why.  

Edited August 30, 2023 by trigger_andy

[Steven P]

en-suites which to be fair are unnecessary add to the footprint of the house, which adds to the environmental impact.

 

Not sure I want to piss in a cupboard in the bed room but that is just me.

 

Referring to the report in question, the more we pave over near rivers, the more rain washes straight in without soaking through the soil. A contributing factor to flooding but also washing any pollutants straight off the property and into the watercourse, for example grass feeds and weed killers, but also dog and cat poo, which the builders had to account for in the past. You'll probably say that this is a small factor but,,, every little helps and with the manifesto target of 300,000 new homes a year (see link below) that is a lot of little bits of pollution.

 

Thought that was at least fairly clear,

 

 

New homes: What's happened to the government's housebuilding target?

WWW.BBC.CO.UK

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Michael Gove failed to commit to the government's new-homes target, so what's happening to it?

 

[5thelement]

7 hours ago, trigger_andy said:

Stating that the population is supposedly going to decrease within the next 20-30 years does in no way explain the housing shortage we are experiencing today. 

 

Seventeen thousand illegal immigrants have crossed the channel in boats this year so far. That's just illegal's crossing by boat, its not including the other illegal's entering the UK nor those who are legal migrants. Of these 17,000 illegal's the vast majority are working/fighting age men. Once these men have been processed and no longer live in Hotels they will be homed. They will not be homed in a commune, they will be given a house or a flat. They will then be allowed, or even if they are not allowed they will bring their families or extended families with them. But even if they dont thats 17,000 less homes for the British population, this year alone. The year is not even over yet. Since records began in 2018 100,000 illegal's have crossed the channel in boats and very few have been deported. Again, this is not including genuine migrants entering the UK  by legal means who needed homed nor the illegal's entering the UK by other means. 

 

To not lay the blame at mass migration being the leading driver in lack of homes for the British public is simply burying your head in the sand and ignoring reality. 

 

But yeh, the real issue is when Wimpy builds houses with an en suite for the people who can actually afford to pay for that house who undoubtedly will be funding the housing for those who are flooding over our boarders. Semantics my arse!

Should have voted for Brexit. 
Regain our Borders. 😂

[trigger_andy]

Just now, 5thelement said:

Should have voted for Brexit. 
Regain our Borders. 😂

What does Brexit have to do with economic migrants illegally flooding over the Chanel in small boats?
 

Saying that Brexit has seen a significant amount of Eastern Europeans return home. A case in point has seen a shortage of lorry drivers due to these people leaving and a serious increase in the wages British lorry drivers could command. As it should be.    

[Steven P]

Small boats in the channel before Brexit: 

Small Boats in the channel after Brexit:

You do the reading, it might blow your mind....

A thriving industry now, a real tory success story that.

[trigger_andy]

8 minutes ago, Steven P said:

Small boats in the channel before Brexit: 

Small Boats in the channel after Brexit:

You do the reading, it might blow your mind....

A thriving industry now, a real tory success story that.

So we agree, it has nothing to do with Brexit? 

[trigger_andy]

1 hour ago, Steven P said:

en-suites which to be fair are unnecessary add to the footprint of the house, which adds to the environmental impact.

Might be unnecessary but so what? Where do you draw the line at whats necessary in life? We could spend days whittling down what we use/consume on a daily basis and Im quite confident an en suite would be considered low impact compared to most of our conveniences. Its such a pointless and ridiculous thing to highlight.

 

2 hours ago, Steven P said:

Not sure I want to piss in a cupboard in the bed room but that is just me.

You're not sure if you want to piss in a cupboard? As in you've not made your mind up yet? I bet you wear your shoes indoors as well. 

 

2 hours ago, Steven P said:

Referring to the report in question, the more we pave over near rivers, the more rain washes straight in without soaking through the soil. A contributing factor to flooding but also washing any pollutants straight off the property and into the watercourse, for example grass feeds and weed killers, but also dog and cat poo, which the builders had to account for in the past. You'll probably say that this is a small factor but,,, every little helps and with the manifesto target of 300,000 new homes a year (see link below) that is a lot of little bits of pollution.

Im not in favour of building more and more houses though. If we're going to take environmental issues seriously we need to vastly reduce our population on this small island of ours. Thats by far the bigger picture than worrying about the supposed impact a few extra square meters an en suit has. Not even the die hard climate change lunatics have a hard -on for en suits.   

[Mike Hill]

I read that there will be 600,000 legal migrants into the UK this year.

 

Which is funny since the UK colonized half the globe and now the globe in colonizing the UK.

 

Add to that the 5000000 unemployed,its all going a bit pear shaped in Blighty it seems.

[doobin]

People who want to allow all migration because 'open borders dahling' and suggest that we build yet more high density flats to accomodate this disgust me. They invariably live somewhere much nicer, and never cheek by jowel with the recent arrivals.

 

Champagne socialists. Fk em. This country needs a government that will prioritise quality of life above the flawed metric of GDP.

 

'We' (as in the county / policy setters) only want all these immigrants to keep the price of labour low so they can keep buying cheap goods and services and pretending they are rich because their house is now Xhundred thousand.