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[matelot]

• 1 hour ago, Daniël Bos said:

  There's really no need to apologise.

  You're arguing with an entity that expressed the belief that people with darker skin are inferior to those with lighter skin, and the belief that what place you were born makes you....

  Let's follow your logic... You're accusing me of being a racist because I'm saying that dark skin people (africans) are inferior because they constantly need food aid.

africans are inferior at being able to feed themselves.... It's something we all know as we're constantly asked to give them aid as they are starving.... Honestly, it's getting really boring with left wing extremists like you getting offended by the truth.

[Mark Bolam]

20 minutes ago, the village idiot said:

It's a mistake to think that the West can turn around the fortunes of a continent between 1984 and now.

 

These things take time, many generations.

 

The situations in many parts of the developing world are improving. International aid is a huge factor in this.

 

Is it all directed and used in the best possible way? Undoubtedly not, but this doesn't make aid a bad thing.

 

There are organisations springing up like the effective altruism movement. They use science and good research to inform us where best to give money to make the most possible real difference.

 

Have a Google of Will McKaskill if you are interested.

I am mate, I’ll have a look.

Thanks.

[matelot]

20 minutes ago, the village idiot said:

The situations in many parts of the developing world are improving. International aid is a huge factor in this.

One thing that would make a difference is buying agricultural products from Africa. It would help provide jobs etc. However the EU puts tariffs on African goods....

 

 

[Mark Bolam]

5 minutes ago, matelot said:

• Let's follow your logic... You're accusing me of being a racist because I'm saying that dark skin people (africans) are inferior because they constantly need food aid.

africans are inferior at being able to feed themselves.... It's something we all know as we're constantly asked to give them aid as they are starving.... Honestly, it's getting really boring with left wing extremists like you getting offended by the truth.

Before anyone jumps on this, the man is basically stating a fact, however distasteful you may find it.

The question is, how can we best help?

[Daniël Bos]

7 minutes ago, matelot said:

• Let's follow your logic... You're accusing me of being a racist because I'm saying that dark skin people (africans) are inferior because they constantly need food aid.

africans are inferior at being able to feed themselves.... It's something we all know as we're constantly asked to give them aid as they are starving.... Honestly, it's getting really boring with left wing extremists like you getting offended by the truth.

I'm pretty sure following my logic is beyond you, my logic involves a thing called compassion for which one requires empathy. A quality which appears entirely void in you.

 

I'm not accusing you of being a racist, it's not my opinion, it's not my thoughts.

It's a fact, you are a racist. Not a "racist", not a "so called racist", an actual racist.

I base this statement on earlier white supremacy vileness you've posted before, not the drivel you come up with now.

[devon TWiG]

I have spent time in South Africa and a few neighbouring countries and the logic / mentality of the indigenous population would simply astound  anyone, for example .......when the AIDS  crisis developed the government advised use of condoms , however black tribal / religous  leaders claimed this was a plot to breed them in to extinction so was ignored , it was believed by some that they could be "cured " of AIDS by having sex with a virgin , subsequently many  young / teenage girls were raped by infected men making the situation worse .... how can any one deal with a large proportion of the population with that kind of mentality , to some extent it comes down to education but the whole culture of Africa is of a different planet to our own and it is not really our right to impose our ways upon them however sympathetic we may feel to their  plight , but it seems Charities are very good at making appealing cases with scenes of starvation to tug at our heartstrings to help keep themselves funded .  

[matelot]

7 minutes ago, Daniël Bos said:

I'm pretty sure following my logic is beyond you, my logic involves a thing called compassion for which one requires empathy. A quality which appears entirely void in you.

 

I'm not accusing you of being a racist, it's not my opinion, it's not my thoughts.

It's a fact, you are a racist. Not a "racist", not a "so called racist", an actual racist.

I base this statement on earlier white supremacy vileness you've posted before, not the drivel you come up with now.

99.99% of people here would agree with the statement "Africans are inferior than Europeans at providing food for their societies". Are they all racists?

 

Why are you so scared of the truth?

[MattyF]

Really 99.99 % ?? I think that’s more the number of people on here who disagree with you .
I guess drought , famine, exploitation from the arms industry recently and apartheid colonisation and more exploitation in the past had nothing to do with being able to have a stable environment for growing and providing food for the population continually exploited by richer nations.

[Haironyourchest]

11 minutes ago, matelot said:

99.99% of people here would agree with the statement "Africans are inferior than Europeans at providing food for their societies". Are they all racists?

 

Why are you so scared of the truth?

They were doing ok until contact with Europeans. Its not about race, its about culture - but culture and race go hand in hand, and in the case of Africa are very close. We're taking about a culture that was still in the stone age two hundred years ago. Literally, the stone age. Little or no metalworking technology. Two hundred years ago. We in the west, and the peoples of the east, have been building complex civilisations for at least ten thousand years. The sub saharan Africans never left the stone age, they just kept right on at that level. The injection of technology into their cultures was detrimental to them - totally banjaxed the delicate balance of reproduction and food supply that they had maintained for probably a quarter of a million years before. The oral tribal wisdom chain was broken. The balance of power between tribes was broken. Our ancestors did this, but they and we should not be blamed, it was inevitable. It's was inevitably happens when a stone age culture meets an advanced culture, the stone agers get fucked. If the Chinese had gotten to Africa first it would have been no different. 

     This is a culture that has no tradition of intellectual advancement. A culture that functioned in its environment, when homeostasis was operating, but one that cannot function now. Its too late. Individuals of any culture and race are capable of transforming themselves, and in that sense we all have the same potential and race is not a thing - we are not limited by our genes - but in reality our race and place of birth also ties us to a culture, and that culture is a powerful thing to overcome. Its like a gravitational force. The culture of Africa is, I repeat, still in the stone age. 

      I was reading about Bennelong, an Australien Aborigine who was captured and became westernised. This is a stone age man who hob-nobbed with aristos in England. It can be done, but on a planetary scale?...I don't know...

[WesD]

Anything with lots of money involved will have corruption somewhere along the way HOWEVER oxfam has still and will still continue to do a lot of good. It’s built numerous schools, villages, homes and supplied food and water to people who genuinely need it. They are one company not a government, it would take a collective effort from governments and companies alike to truly abolish famine and health problems we no longer have BUT that would mean giving in a world full of takers. 

 

I try to help people or donate or raise money for charities I feel are worth while whenever I can, not to make a difference to the world or to make me feel good (which to be fair it does) but to make a difference to the person I’m helping no matter how small.