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[Richard 1234]

Our business won't be putting prices up.... so it's not 'everything'.

 

Cheers, Steve

 

 

If everything else went up to pay this new minimum wage except your business you would either start losing money or go broke.

People on minimum wage now are no better off than when it first came in. It's still not really enough but prices have a tendency to move to what people can afford (or not as the case may be)

In my opinion a higher minimum will simply have the effect of raising prices across the board. Maybe that's what labour want so that the debt becomes less through inflation?

 

 

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[matelot]

Socialist ideas always sound nice in theory but don't really work in practice.

 

A nationalised rail industry sounds nice, however it means that international businesses are hesitant about building factories in the UK.

 

A £10 minimum wage sounds nice, however it means employers get rid of employees.

 

Making the rich pay more tax sounds nice, however it means the rich move to other countries.

 

Having a generous welfare state sounds nice, however it means the lazy live from the work of others.

[Stumpy Grinder]

I think £10 per hour is sustainable & it encourages workers to feel valued.

 

We would rather pay somebody £10 per hour and get good productivity & smiles than pay less to somebody who does far less work with a de-moralised attitude.

cheers, Steve

 

That's all fine but what happens when everything goes up by 25%?

Do you then pay £12.50 an hour?

 

 

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Firstly, we need to understand percentages!

A wage increase from £7.50 to £10 is not 25% !!

It is actually an increase of 33% !!

That is a massive increase!!!!

I would expect an employee of an arborist would earn at least that anyway as it is a skilled profession with risks. But consider supermarkets with low skilled workers and absolute cutthroat targets to survive? How will they adapt? They need the same workforce so they will simply add the extra cost of labour onto the cost of what we buy. The higher paid will barely notice, whereas the lower paid will be hit hardest. What have you achieved? Less than nothing, as you have increased unemployment and raised the cost of living for those which you are trying to help!

Labour politics sound great, but they are quite simply not achievable as they cannot be funded. Labour ethos is great, but reality is somewhat different!

The gap between Labour and Conservative maybe reducing, but the gap between your ears should not! When you vote, vote with your heart, but don't forget to take your brain with you!

A vote for labour will hurt you badly in the long run!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

SG

[Mull]

I would expect an employee of an arborist would earn at least that anyway as it is a skilled profession with risks.

 

 

How is dragging brash a skilled job with risks? Anymore than dragging a trolley of veg about?

You might get hit on the head with a log or you might get locked in a chiller, both unlikely but it does happen. Not sure who I'd give the bigger wage to, not much between them really, both necessary jobs.

[Mull]

About 50% of adults pay no income tax...

 

The richest 1% pay a quarter of income tax.....

 

 

Yep, sounds like a Tory manifesto policy.

[Mull]

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[Richard 1234]

Firstly, we need to understand percentages!

 

A wage increase from £7.50 to £10 is not 25% !!

 

It is actually an increase of 33% !!

 

That is a massive increase!!!!

 

I would expect an employee of an arborist would earn at least that anyway as it is a skilled profession with risks. But consider supermarkets with low skilled workers and absolute cutthroat targets to survive? How will they adapt? They need the same workforce so they will simply add the extra cost of labour onto the cost of what we buy. The higher paid will barely notice, whereas the lower paid will be hit hardest. What have you achieved? Less than nothing, as you have increased unemployment and raised the cost of living for those which you are trying to help!

 

Labour politics sound great, but they are quite simply not achievable as they cannot be funded. Labour ethos is great, but reality is somewhat different!

 

The gap between Labour and Conservative maybe reducing, but the gap between your ears should not! When you vote, vote with your heart, but don't forget to take your brain with you!

 

A vote for labour will hurt you badly in the long run!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

SG

 

 

I was talking about from £10 to £12.50 being 25%

But either way it's too big a jump and means that everyone currently on for example £10 an hour wants £13.30 so that they have the benefit of the same rise.

In theory it could also push a small business into VAT threshold which would then add another 20% to the bill for the consumer that can't reclaim

 

 

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[felixthelogchopper]

I think £10 per hour is sustainable & it encourages workers to feel valued.

 

We would rather pay somebody £10 per hour and get good productivity & smiles than pay less to somebody who does far less work with a de-moralised attitude.

cheers, Steve

 

Agreed. You only need to look at the amount of people receiving benefits other than child benefit to realise that the tax payer is basically subsidising the paying of low wages by businesses to improve their profit margin.

[felixthelogchopper]

naw! they would just expect more money for little effort. i think that when you start out its best for you to have low wages as an incentive for you to better your skills that will lead to higher pay

 

If that's the case then you need to look more closely at the people you have working for you, not what you are paying them.

[Gary Prentice]

How can 2 people look at the same thing and see the complete opposite?

 

It's a mad world! 😳

 

Your obviously not married!