Vat killing me!

[Robert_S]

I'm still in shock as someone says they work 250 days a year, thats madness…...

[IVECOKID]

Depends on the size of the trees, for domestic garden conny bashing and cherry tree pruning, there's no need for staff, especially if you have a micro chipper!

 

 

 

Absolutely true

 

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[Johny Walker]

Not sure about the legalities of split companies.. Sounds dodgy to me, it needs to be remembered that it's not a a case of right or wrong, it's a case of how an inspector interprets the rules. And these people have so much power, freezing bank accounts for example, that it's not a risk worth taking.

 

I'm surprised how many people manage to stay under the vat threshold (without doing a lot of cash). The threshold is 83000, that's only £318 per working day of the year..

 

your basing that on working 52wks off the yr ??.what if some one only works 44wksof the yr ,very low overheads & subby wen needed , differant ball game me thinks ,

[simonm]

your basing that on working 52wks off the yr ??.what if some one only works 44wksof the yr ,very low overheads & subby wen needed , differant ball game me thinks ,

 

I dont understand how folk can work like this though, I find there is very little I can do on my own, even jobs where you just need someone to stand over the footpath can be a pita on your own, having somebody full time makes you much Moore efficient.

[Ian C]

I dont understand how folk can work like this though, I find there is very little I can do on my own, even jobs where you just need someone to stand over the footpath can be a pita on your own, having somebody full time makes you much Moore efficient.

 

I agree simon but jonny has been there man and boy with 5 staff on etc etc and in reality is now semi retired so it suits him personally which is fair enough.

[Tom D]

If you know how to charge then sure its better to work two days a week for £700 a day and take the rest off, but there's a lot of firms who work maybe 18 days a month and still stay under the threshold, these are the ones I don't get..

 

Round here I don't think i'd get enough small connie jobs to make a living on my own, the small jobs are the most competitive, as more people can do them. I don't work 250 days a year but when you have staff the company will be working that many days, different staff have time off at different times..

[Mesterh]

Depends hugely on who/what your customer base is imo. If a lot of your work is domestic, working class customers then vat would cause you to lose work. I have always stayed under it and as a two man/three man now and then team you can make good money.

 

I must say you do have to love some of the facts in this thread, some of them would send you straight to jail.

[simonm]

i have quoted £550 + vat to remove a medium sized Horse Chestnut in a customers garden, i didn't mention there was vat to pay, the customer said he had a much cheaper quote! despite me pointing out it had codominant stems, and a large column of decay that 2 other firms had not spotted , people dont wanna pay more than they have to even though you know the other firms who had quoted are ****!

[Mick Dempsey]

Just because they're cheaper than you doesn't make them no good.

What difference does the rot make? It's coming out anyway.

You're coming across a bit whiny IMO.

[simonm]

Just because they're cheaper than you doesn't make them no good.

What difference does the rot make? It's coming out anyway.

You're coming across a bit whiny IMO.

 

I am whiny tbh Mick, pissed off trying to better me and my family to end up knocked down again, the tree is covered by a tpo, the owner has tried to get the tree removed before but as folk are missing obvious defects and not applying the correct information to the application it is getting rejected, 1 of the other firms had a climber in a tree with trainers, no harness rope etc, top handle with no strop and a bit of tow rope that wasn't long enough! and the other i have no end of bad stories.