Best of new 4x4's on market

[Stubby]

I occasionally still use the old method of parking by ear

[TimberCutterDartmoor]

Give it a couple of months and you will wonder how you managed without it!!

 

Hmmm. Got a sat nav, map reading skills reduced. Got parking sensors, get in other car forgetting it hasn't got them, ooops. Likewise parking aids, yer gonna lose the skill of looking around you as you start to rely on a screen.

[Joe Newton]

Hmmm. Got a sat nav, map reading skills reduced. Got parking sensors, get in other car forgetting it hasn't got them, ooops. Likewise parking aids, yer gonna lose the skill of looking around you as you start to rely on a screen.

 

 

When people started buying cars our horse riding skills were vastly reduced...

 

Don't see many people looking back though.

[Big J]

The new Navara you have Steve certainly looks smart, but I do hope that you have the same incredible luck with it that you had with your previous ones. Even the head mechanic at the local Nissan main dealer said they weren't well built.

 

Mine is now finally gone (and has ended up in Zimbabwe as a hire truck) but not without stinging the new owner to the tune of just over £2000. Apparently some sensor failed and something melted - couldn't quite grasp what it was, but it sounded bloody expensive.

 

Without a doubt the worst vehicle I've ever owned.

 

I question how good pickups really are for general arb work - too cramped and small for carrying decent amounts of kit, not great for towing due to high first gears and reverse and the long rear overhang and most of the new ones look like they'd be more at home in Chelsea than a work site.

 

If I did more off roading, I'd have a 4x4 Sprinter for work. As I don't, I have a Disco 4 for those odd off road moments and a Citroen Relay (which is awesome - returns nearly 40mpg unloaded and driven sensibly, as well as being reliable, comfortable, cavernous inside and extremely cheap to own - £18.5k plus VAT for the new one that is coming with almost every extra on it) for everything else.

 

In Europe, it's only the UK that has a love affair with pickups. You don't see many on the continent.

[Mick Dempsey]

The new Navara you have Steve certainly looks smart, but I do hope that you have the same incredible luck with it that you had with your previous ones. Even the head mechanic at the local Nissan main dealer said they weren't well built.

 

Mine is now finally gone (and has ended up in Zimbabwe as a hire truck) but not without stinging the new owner to the tune of just over £2000. Apparently some sensor failed and something melted - couldn't quite grasp what it was, but it sounded bloody expensive.

 

Without a doubt the worst vehicle I've ever owned.

 

I question how good pickups really are for general arb work - too cramped and small for carrying decent amounts of kit, not great for towing due to high first gears and reverse and the long rear overhang and most of the new ones look like they'd be more at home in Chelsea than a work site.

 

If I did more off roading, I'd have a 4x4 Sprinter for work. As I don't, I have a Disco 4 for those odd off road moments and a Citroen Relay (which is awesome - returns nearly 40mpg unloaded and driven sensibly, as well as being reliable, comfortable, cavernous inside and extremely cheap to own - £18.5k plus VAT for the new one that is coming with almost every extra on it) for everything else.

 

In Europe, it's only the UK that has a love affair with pickups. You don't see many on the continent.

 

I've noticed in the past decade I've been here the amount of pick ups has increased (not just because of me!) farmers and hunters are warming to all the jap jobs, seeing them as a step up from the French front wheel drive vans (in any colour as long as it's white)

[Taupotreeman]

I've noticed in the past decade I've been here the amount of pick ups has increased (not just because of me!) farmers and hunters are warming to all the jap jobs, seeing them as a step up from the French front wheel drive vans (in any colour as long as it's white)

 

 

Utes or pickups are the stereo typical kiwi vehicle I think. Used for hunting, work or just a genera run around. Apparently the ford Rangers and Isuzu D max are getting rave reviews over here. I have a two wheel drive Holden (Vauxhall) Colorado and it's utter pants. The four wheel drive is pretty much the same vehicle and up it's as bad as my 2WD id avoid it like the plague.

[MudRut]

I spoke with a rep at Toyota, supposedly the new Hilux will not be offered with the big diesel engine because of EU emissions! Looks like I'll be hanging on to the 3.0L for a while longer..

 

I had the same conversation a cuppla days ago.

 

I have a two year old 3.0L which is great, but I planned to swap it next March. I'm now wondering whether to swap it earlier to get the last of the current 3.0L or just keep this one longer. (There is nothing wrong with it, I just planned to swap out every three years.)

 

I am wondering if Toyota will reverse their decision in a couple of years and bring in the 2.8L model which they are reserving for markets which aren't presided over by limp-wristed, psuedo-green, quorn-munching bed-wetters.

[SteveA]

I had the same conversation a cuppla days ago.

 

I have a two year old 3.0L which is great, but I planned to swap it next March. I'm now wondering whether to swap it earlier to get the last of the current 3.0L or just keep this one longer. (There is nothing wrong with it, I just planned to swap out every three years.)

 

I am wondering if Toyota will reverse their decision in a couple of years and bring in the 2.8L model which they are reserving for markets which aren't presided over by limp-wristed, psuedo-green, quorn-munching bed-wetters.

 

Thanks dude. Love you too.

cheers, Steve

[MudRut]

Thanks dude. Love you too.

cheers, Steve

 

 

Well, I was aiming my jibe at the faceless individuals who conspire to spoil my fun forcing down engine sizes; the 2.4L Defender became 2.2L before its demise.

 

I realise that technology moves forward, but I am always suspicious and mostly disappointed when any manufacturer says 'we've reduced the engine size, but now it produces more torque, more top-end power and better economy'.

 

As for quorn........

 

regards

 

 

Ian

[Steve Bullman]

The new Navara you have Steve certainly looks smart, but I do hope that you have the same incredible luck with it that you had with your previous ones.

Thanks.

Equally, I hope I don't have the same incredibly bad luck you have had with yours