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What you also have to remember is, and this works both ways between employees and employers that generally local firms know each other and word spreads about bad staff being unreliable so getting work is harder but also about bad employers so getting workers is harder. It's back to the team thing and a trust thing and remember **** does happen to us all at some point.

 

Doesn't matter how badly some employers (are perceived to)

treat their workers, they will always get new people because of the thousands of people coming out of college every 10 weeks, desperate for experience.

I know, I was one 20 years ago.

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Marcus, you live in a world of your own!

 

Running back'n'forth on a bike or a tractor is fine if you work local to home. Some of us don't have that pleasure.

 

How do you get on with a roadside fix when the computer says no?

 

(i) If I required to drive substantial distances on a daily basis, I would run a newer car, possibly with Green Star cover.

Or simply change every 3/5 or 7 years when the manufacturers warrenty expires.

Plus have contingency plans in place, like short term hire or loaner.

(ii) See above.

 

Simples.

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(i) If I required to drive substantial distances on a daily basis, I would run a newer car, possibly with Green Star cover.

 

Or simply change every 3/5 or 7 years when the manufacturers warrenty expires.

 

Plus have contingency plans in place, like short term hire or loaner.

 

(ii) See above.

 

 

 

Simples.

 

 

Do you know the basic salary for a tree worker? If I bought a new car every five years my boss would be suspicious!

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Just out of interest what is a basic salary for a tree worker?

Just wondering as a mate had a big chestnut taken down and stump out and small hedge reduction for £2150 plus vat. Somone made some money! Only 4 1/2 hour job thanks Richard

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There's no me in there. There is a her in there though.

 

Haha very good. There's no I in team but there is a me. Forgot how pedantic arbtalk was.:001_tt2:

 

Your 'her' recognition sums up the nature of some people and the way they are molly coddled in todays society in the working world. Prima Donna arborists. Champagne wage demands, lemonade work ethic. Lol

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Do you know the basic salary for a tree worker? If I bought a new car every five years my boss would be suspicious!

 

Then one is employing a flawed business model, travelling long distances for minimal wages.

 

Or, In farming parlance a "busy fool", working hard, yes, but not achieving a lot.

 

Cheers

Marcus

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Just out of interest what is a basic salary for a tree worker?

Just wondering as a mate had a big chestnut taken down and stump out and small hedge reduction for £2150 plus vat. Somone made some money! Only 4 1/2 hour job thanks Richard

 

I am only a humble forester so not fully versed in the running costs of a tree surgery firm, but whatever way I look at it the above figure seems staggering. It would take me over a month to earn what they were charging for half a day, doing a not too dissimilar job.

Is that the going rate for tree surgery work or was the firm very greedy and the client too quick to accept?

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That depends on how many staff were on site, did they turn up with £100k worth of gear which ment they could do in that time what would have taken another company 2days, pre work starting were tpo reports and applications needed which take knowledge and time. Insurance...

Wages are only a part of the daily running costs of a tree firm which is something iv found young lads out of collage or still at college coming to me for work placement seem to struggle to grasp this concept that just because I'm paying them,x and charging y that I'm earning myself a mint and living the shampain lifestyle, I wish!

Saying all that over 2k is quite a lot.

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Just out of interest what is a basic salary for a tree worker?

Just wondering as a mate had a big chestnut taken down and stump out and small hedge reduction for £2150 plus vat. Somone made some money! Only 4 1/2 hour job thanks Richard

 

 

Did they really "make money" or just make a fair wage for the men and equipment required? How many people were on site for example?

 

Someone has been out and quoted for job

Travel time to job both ways, any arisings needing tipped?

Insurances, equipment, certification, holiday pay, pensions etc etc etc

 

So... They maybe did or maybe didn't make good money but there's always more than meets the eye. And for every one that maybe went well and good return made there's a job that goes the other way!

 

Edit: The fabulously named Gray Git has covered this already

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