Was he right???

[Mesterh]

Of course he was right to do, I bet loads of others wanted to do the same but the guy knew he could handle it. How else would the train have got moving again?

 

Lets not forget the kid is a thief plain and simple. I bet many of us have been affected by thieves and would do more than that guy did if we could handle the situation.

 

If he was a good kid who did forget or bought the wrong ticket etc he would have been apologising not give lip like he did.

[WorcsWuss]

There is always the chance that he was telling the truth and actually had bought a ticket? I can't say either way, but there's a chance that the kid could have been telling the truth, just in a particularly objectionable manner...

 

Not that I really give a toss either way, as has been well documented, the kid was a vile little scrote with a massive lack of respect, he probably learned this from his father listening to him on the radio 'those guards, they can be' this and that, what a pillock.

 

I don't use trains, mostly for the others that use them, and I have every sympathy for the bloke who threw this kid off, he's probably going to be the one to have the book thrown at him for trying to sort things out quickly and efficiently.

I still maintain that everyone involved could have been right and everyone could also have been wrong. I wasn't there and there's limited information in the video, but what I do know is that this has been turned into a 'big thing' when it really shouldn't.

 

That kid should just learn not to get on without a ticket and that should be the end of it, but it won't be, because of how this country operates now.

[easy-lift guy]

I heard this on the radio today.

The lad's dad came on and ranted [perhaps justificably] about what a good lad he was, but ended up sounding like a rough sort himself.

My opinion of it [if anyone cares!] is thus.

 

The lad may or may not have bought a ticket, got the wrong ticket, whatever. If he had half a brain, some manners, a bit of respect he would have said 'look, I'm sorry, I bought a ticket but I've been given the wrong one, I'm really sorry, I don't have enough for another ticket, could anyone help me out please?' And then taken their address and sent them the money later. All would have been well.

But he didn't, he argued an impossible case, and was rude with it.

 

The guard seemed to be a fairly obstinate old git. He could have said 'OK, I believe you but in the interests of being fair to everyone I need a ticket for you to be paid for, if anyone here will be kind enough to help you out we can all get moving'.

But he didn't, he picked an outcome and didn't seem to offer any alternative solutions.

 

The big bloke should have offered the fare first rather than jump in and do something which if everyone had the time to calm down and think it through properly, they would have seen to be perhaps a slightly over the top reaction.

 

Everyone else sat there and no one chipped in with a useful solution.

I'm not a big bloke, I don't get inolved with violence because 99 times out of a 100 I'd come off worse, but I'd always try to resolve something like this with smiles, it can be done and it's much quicker.

 

It seems to me that everyone involved handled the situation wrong, but now as a result of it rather than move on, the media and blame culture in this country are making this a whole big deal when really and truly, it should just be forgotten about.

 

All feels like a bit of a non story to me..... mistakes were made, learn from it, move on.

Will that happen...? 'Course not....

 

Worcs, what part of Off did the rider who was really not interested in the rules or inconveniencing other riders not understand?, Would it have been better if the conductor continue to argue with the rider knowing very well that it was a lost cause?. Perhaps the person that assisted the conductor with the removal of the rider should have lost some weight before he resolved the situation?

The rider IMO knew he was in the wrong and refused to leave on his own accord, no I do not pitty him and I would have thank the big man myself since he was the reason the situation was defused and the matter resolved, better yet since I am not that big of a man and the conductor needed assistance I would have defused the situation myself if asked to help. It does not make me a better person I just see this non-sence here in the states and I am once again glad to see someone willing to have some spine and help.

easy-lift guy

[Gareth Smith]

Alot of mixed opinions on this and as always everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I think the little scrote acted well out of turn and so did 'the big guy' .. My point is , what if that little scrote was a drugged up looney tune carrying a weapon ? With all those other people and children on board that train . If it had kicked off which I think it would have (if the scrote was a drugged up looney) being manhandled like that who knows what would have happened and what innocent people could have gotten injured !

[Steve Bullman]

My point is , what if that little scrote was a drugged up looney tune carrying a weapon ? With all those other people and children on board that train . If it had kicked off which I think it would have (if the scrote was a drugged up looney) being manhandled like that who knows what would have happened and what innocent people could have gotten injured !

 

So just let him have his way and stay on the train instead then?

 

The only way he was getting off that train was through force

[Marko]

Did the father ever get around to explaining the rude and offensive stance taken by his little angel? I turned off the radio before it got damaged.

[Rich Rule]

Alot of mixed opinions on this and as always everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I think the little scrote acted well out of turn and so did 'the big guy' .. My point is , what if that little scrote was a drugged up looney tune carrying a weapon ? With all those other people and children on board that train . If it had kicked off which I think it would have (if the scrote was a drugged up looney) being manhandled like that who knows what would have happened and what innocent people could have gotten injured !

 

What if... what if..? Come one mate get real. Oh dear, all the rough youts carry a tool?!?

 

Drugged up loony tune. Where do you get these from?

 

Best look before you cross the road next time or a JUGGERNAUT might run you over.

 

Simple answer is... don't use public transport if it scares you that much.

[gensetsteve]

Alot of mixed opinions on this and as always everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I think the little scrote acted well out of turn and so did 'the big guy' .. My point is , what if that little scrote was a drugged up looney tune carrying a weapon ? With all those other people and children on board that train . If it had kicked off which I think it would have (if the scrote was a drugged up looney) being manhandled like that who knows what would have happened and what innocent people could have gotten injured !

 

If he was a loony it could go either way however you handle it. If someone is being man handled and shows a weapon it is often easier to disarm because they are not in control of what is going on.

[skyhuck]

Alot of mixed opinions on this and as always everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I think the little scrote acted well out of turn and so did 'the big guy' .. My point is , what if that little scrote was a drugged up looney tune carrying a weapon ? With all those other people and children on board that train . If it had kicked off which I think it would have (if the scrote was a drugged up looney) being manhandled like that who knows what would have happened and what innocent people could have gotten injured !

 

So we should all back down and let toe rags behave however they wish "just incase" he has a weapon???

 

If we all think about the worst possible out come of any situation, we would end up doing nothing.

[Matthew Storrs]

kid wasn't going to budge without a little force, and thats exactly what was given, something had to be done and im pretty sure i would have lost my patience with the kid at this stage too if id been wanting to get somewhere.