Welcome back to the EU!

[Steven P]

20 minutes ago, GarethM said:

Typical civil service BS, oh you can't do x,y,x.

 

Why, well erm because it would mean doing what you we are TOLD to implement.

 

Instead of sitting on your arses ignoring the will of the people that elected the government to do as they were instructed!.

 

Gareth, no it isn't. It was a very simple question, hand on heart, how has Brexit positively benefitted you. You personally.

 

 

[Johnsond]

32 minutes ago, Squaredy said:

Personally for me it is not about benefits.  Our governments of all colours over the last twenty five years or so have mis-managed most things.  But I find this easier to stomach than foreign unelected Eurocrats and foreign courts mismanaging us.

 

But to answer your question, one benefit is we have saved about 20 billion in net contributions since leaving.  So maybe our ‘Black Hole’ is a little smaller than it would otherwise have been.

That question will never be answered to SP’s or any remainers satisfaction. My point has always been the devastation of the training and apprenticeship schemes post free movement but it seems to fall on deaf ears. I do wonder if the vote had gone the other way if the tories had just decided to leave by stealth how it would have gone down with those rejoicing at Starmers expensive capitulation to the EU corporate labour pool. I’d imagine the howls of anguish would have been deafening. 

[GarethM]

11 minutes ago, Steven P said:

Gareth, no it isn't. It was a very simple question, hand on heart, how has Brexit positively benefitted you. You personally.

Yes it is, the civil service are there to do as we tell them.

 

If they say but the law, we change it and they do as instructed.

 

Brexit has not made my life any easier or harder, quid pro quo.

 

Nut 2 tier has pretty much pants downed again and taken 28 super sized dildos and then given them our wallet and paid the hotel bill.

[Big J]

1 hour ago, Mike Hill said:

You live in Sweden and are German are you not?

 

Are you integrated yourself since your still pretending to be English?

 

Pretty integrated, yes. My Swedish is OK (90% of the time i use Swedish at work). I speak German with the Germans and English at home and with most of my Swedish friends here. 

 

It's nice to live somewhere that is incredibly multicultural. Our school is 30% non-swedish born, and loads of the kids are multilingual. My kids are now bilingual.

 

Much can be improved with the EU, but nothing will work to the UKs advantage if it's on the outside looking in.

[sime42]

19 minutes ago, Bolt said:

Never been totally sure what Europe produces that we can’t.

 

Never been totally sure what we produce that Europe can’t.

 

Always thought trade between us and the EU was a bit pointless.

 

Olives, wine, Parma ham.

 

Baked beans, pasties.

 

 

[AHPP]

Yeah. I want to trade freely with European people. That's why I don't want to be in the EU or the UK.

[tree-fancier123]

So Norway can keep their fish and we have to let aircraft carrier size fishing boats from all of EU come and hoover ours up.

Norway is the model - we can only dream

 

Why is Norway not a part of the EU?

 

 

A major issue for Norway is its fishing resources, which are a significant part of the national economy and which would come under the Common Fisheries Policy if Norway were to accede to the EU. Norway has high GNP per capita and would have to pay a high membership fee.

[Sviatoslav Tulin]

Love you all ….see you soon on Ukrainian battle field!

[Johnsond]

2 hours ago, Big J said:

In fairness, Brexit was a shit idea implemented terribly by morons. 

 

The world has changed hugely since 2016, and closeness to our European neighbours is more important than ever. 

 

Reintegration cannot come soon enough.

That’s your opinion J, what it pays scant regard to is “ democracy “ just because you don’t like the result you can’t choose to ignore it. Or in the EUs case send it back out for another vote. I voted for brexit then and I’d do the same again, probably more so after watching how the EU behaved during the negotiations and just now with the coward Starmer. You think the EU is a force of good, I think Europe would be a far better place without it. By all means trade but the overreach from within the unelected bureaucracies that dominate the EU has gone way too far. 

[Mike Hill]

5 hours ago, tree-fancier123 said:

So Norway can keep their fish and we have to let aircraft carrier size fishing boats from all of EU come and hoover ours up.

Norway is the model - we can only dream

 

Why is Norway not a part of the EU?

 

 

A major issue for Norway is its fishing resources, which are a significant part of the national economy and which would come under the Common Fisheries Policy if Norway were to accede to the EU. Norway has high GNP per capita and would have to pay a high membership fee.

 

EU membership would gut the fishing industry as you mentioned.  Also the timber and Agricultural sectors.

 

For all intents and purposes Norway is in the EU,free trade,freedom of movement etc. However instead of marching to the drum of what is effectively the fourth Reich,Norway has the economic muscle to hold its own.

 

The British people voted leave, could J vote in that referendum or not? Are you a British Citizen J?

 

Champagne socialists like Blair/Starmer/Trudeau/ Arden can't except any contrary opinion other than their own ideals,even when the people choose thus in a fair and free election. Usually choosing to slink away before they are voted out.

 

Curiously Arden is on her way to the UK for a new tenure spouting idealist drivel to the sons and daughters of successful liberals at Cambridge.