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[sime42]

The judge coined a catchy strapline to the story for sure;-

 

"A moronic mission of mindless vandalism".

 

 

[Mark J]

3 hours ago, AHPP said:

 

https://www.sentencingcouncil.org.uk/offences/crown-court/item/criminal-damage-other-than-by-fire-value-exceeding-5000-racially-or-religiously-aggravated-criminal-damage/

 

Place your bets.

 

Tricky one. 

I can see them getting 36 months. They could have probably got a suspended sentence if they'd pleaded guilty. 

I reckon a few months planting saplings in The Cheviots would be better than throwing them in jail, they're not bright enough to be a threat to general society. They should also have to sign up to Baldrick's School of Cunning Plans. 

[Bolt]

50 minutes ago, sime42 said:

The judge coined a catchy strapline to the story for sure;-

 

"A moronic mission of mindless vandalism".

 

 

Sounds like a succinct summary of my career.

[kram]

I would suggest 2 years suspended with a fine and large number of hours community service.

 

The interesting thing is Grahams has been in custody since December for his own protection after being attacked?

[dan blocker]

They’ve also been further remanded for “their own protection”. I’m  just putting 3 years custody out there? For their own protection🤔

[Mark Bolam]

I would shoot the pair of c’s, but in the eyes of the law they have only been found guilty of criminal damage.

 

There is no specific law about felling what was, in my my opinion, one of the UK’s most significant trees.

 

Sentencing is in July.

 

The horrible lying bastards will probably get fined a few hundred quid.

 

I really hope I’m wrong mind.

[Joe Newton]

9 minutes ago, Mark Bolam said:

I would shoot the pair of c’s, but in the eyes of the law they have only been found guilty of criminal damage.

 

There is no specific law about felling what was, in my my opinion, one of the UK’s most significant trees.

 

Sentencing is in July.

 

The horrible lying bastards will probably get fined a few hundred quid.

 

I really hope I’m wrong mind.

What more are they guilty of other than criminal damage?

 

We've got convicted rapists being freed after less than 3 years.

 

Luckily since they're both white heterosexual males in the UK they'll probably get the death sentence. 

[Mark Bolam]

That’s kind of my point Joe.

 

Criminal damage on its own isn’t a big deal.

Albeit with over £600 k’s worth of damage.

 

They can’t invent a special new law to prosecute them under just because they killed an amazing tree.

 

Letter of the, fine in the hundreds and bound over.

 

@AHPP?

 

For what it’s worth if I ever meet either of them they will end up with even less teeth than they already haven’t, and there’s plenty like me in Northumberland feel the same.

 

My Dad showed me that tree 45 years ago, a little while before Robin Hood.

[monkeybusiness]

They’ll get at least 4 years I reckon - this has been a massive case and they are taking about televising the sentencing hearing.
Whatever they get will go to appeal no doubt, and everyone will have forgotten all about it next year. 

Personally I think they deserve jail time, but there is no way in the world that this is worse than kiddy fiddling or killing someone (though I suspect they will receive harsher sentences than others who have got off far more leniently for worse). 

[kram]

@Mark Bolam One of the UK's most significant trees? It was a relatively young sycamore. The only thing special about it was the location and peoples memories of it.

 

Somone should grind out the stump and plant a nice oak in its place. 

 

3 hours ago, dan blocker said:

They’ve also been further remanded for “their own protection”. I’m  just putting 3 years custody out there? For their own protection🤔

Only Daniel Grahams, as he told on the other one. Not for protection from angry tree huggers.