Tractor and chipper rates

[swinny]

39 minutes ago, LGP Eddie said:

I had a Farmi 260 with infeed conveyor and no crane, it was purchased for niche work and did me very well, excellent build quality, easy to work on and never had any parts apart from one bearing I put the wrong grease into by mistake.

It would produce an excellent biomass quality chip, being fitted with twig breakers too, and this is really what they’re intended for, chipping smaller roundwood for fuel, and are seriously rapid at it if setup correctly and don’t need much hp to do it.

The downside was anything remotely brash would want to wrap around the feed rollers, and as long as the operator was familiar with reversing the rollers regularly it became very little of an issue.

Had it on tractors from 70 to 250hp and in reality the 125hp Valtra N111 ran it best.

More hp was good, but twisted pto lemon tube isn’t!🤦‍♂️

 

For the intended Massey quoted here, as previously stated, it’ll run the chipper ok, you can even put them on 540 speed if required, but it’ll be too large cumbersome for the actual tractor size, and be a proper tail wagging the dog setup.

 

Don’t let me put you off though, others have quoted a “niche” and there is a place for such setups.

I know of two who have put some thought into it and it seems to work well for them.

Basically reverse drive Valtra with TP Chipper and 3 point linkage crane.

Same crane drops straight onto the bolster trailer for any forwarding duties and a nice Tajfun winch on the front for good measure.

Same tractor is back on all sorts of summer duties in standard form when required.

 

It goes without saying the Heizohack is a fantastic tool and in site clearance has an incredible ability to manage to finish the shift with blades that shouldn’t be able to!

They are literally everywhere and I could get hold of big twin axle units with crane, large hp tractor and highly experienced operators for the rates already quoted here and obviously fuel colour is the main issue for these guys.

 

Very handy setup that for a hell of an all rounder. 

 

Once of a day, pre botex trailer and pre teleporter. I was adamant I had to have a front loader. Now I'd be happier with front 3pl and run same as above. 

 

Seen some locally and have been considering the front 3pl and ditch loader route.

 

To a small medium company the above setup be dog's dangles. 

 

A roof mount feeding a chipper be similar? 

 

 

Not sure what visibility is like going down the road with roof mount though

[lux]

I think the 10 inch chipper is prob too small to be attractive to regularly sub out. It’s a bloody useful chipper for your own site clearance etc etc and will make you efficient but I think most people subbing in a big chipper would step up to a larger machine like a trailered heizo or similar. 
 

if you have plenty of large domestic or site clearance for developers and the like it’ll do you well I recon. Agree it could be a little unpleasant driving it around 

[gdh]

1 hour ago, Brushcutter said:

Seem to be between 50 and 80.for what is available at the moment. Biomass boom and supply I'm betting supply issues.

 

Expect another 20 to 30 depending on the crane now.

I'm with you now. There's two different versions of the 15inch. The more expensive one has a conveyor infeed and strengthening to be fed more safely with a crane although I think the main drum is the same on both models.

[LGP Eddie]

20 minutes ago, swinny said:

Very handy setup that for a hell of an all rounder. 

 

Once of a day, pre botex trailer and pre teleporter. I was adamant I had to have a front loader. Now I'd be happier with front 3pl and run same as above. 

 

Seen some locally and have been considering the front 3pl and ditch loader route.

 

To a small medium company the above setup be dog's dangles. 

 

A roof mount feeding a chipper be similar? 

 

 

Not sure what visibility is like going down the road with roof mount though

I’ve worked alongside pictured setup and it works spot on.

Travels the ground surprisingly well and it was seriously wet where we were.

 

The owner knows his stuff, all of a sudden with just another good guy on the ground they have an awful lot processed, with brash through the chipper and everything else stacked for easy later collection by the same setup with it’s forwarding trailer.

 

I know another guy who had similar, but only difference being roofmount crane and in some respects having the ability to get back to standard tractor for a full season of work is a big plus for some.

 

Great niche setup capable of a wide range of work, and if you’re chipping stuff over 8” at this end of the game at present, you’re probably due a rethink anyway.

[LGP Eddie]

Same unit with chipper off and crane now hooked onto trailer.

 

[arbwork]

''and the Mrs has never had so many Tesco points!😂'' 

in an earlier life had a colleague who collected fuel for the company and filled some of the trucks up, his bonus greensheild stamps !👍

all the best for the new year 

[Joe Newton]

It's a non starter in my opinion. 

 

You can hire a 12" bandit Road tow round here for £400 per day, which would piss all over that.

 

If you're buying it to hire out I can't see it being cost effective. 

[monkeybusiness]

Pto chippers fed via a roof mount or mounted crane suffer from the operator not being able to see the feed rollers - much more efficient feeding them with a machine in my experience. But you obviously have to drag another machine to the job. 
 

[LGP Eddie]

1 hour ago, Joe Newton said:

It's a non starter in my opinion. 

 

You can hire a 12" bandit Road tow round here for £400 per day, which would piss all over that.

 

If you're buying it to hire out I can't see it being cost effective. 

That’s why we were talking niche and almost certainly their own work and some hire.

Plenty of cheap big chippers for hire if it’s only chipping you want.

One good guy turning up in the truck with the kit alongside that Valtra and in a shift you can have an awful lot done, leaving valuable product for later collection and no heavy work for anyone.

You’ll not even hammer the fuel through in a mixed shift of winching/processing/chipping.

You can forward material, load it straight onto a processor table, etc etc, and that’s besides going off on standard tractor work.

 

The original poster is a non starter simply because the intended Tractor isn’t big enough, the Valtra is only an example of how such a crane/pto chipper could work for some, which it does.

 

Always easier to load with an excavator, but plenty of decent inexpensive cameras about to give the operator a better view now.

[doobin]

9 hours ago, LGP Eddie said:

That’s why we were talking niche and almost certainly their own work and some hire.

Plenty of cheap big chippers for hire if it’s only chipping you want.

One good guy turning up in the truck with the kit alongside that Valtra and in a shift you can have an awful lot done, leaving valuable product for later collection and no heavy work for anyone.

You’ll not even hammer the fuel through in a mixed shift of winching/processing/chipping.

You can forward material, load it straight onto a processor table, etc etc, and that’s besides going off on standard tractor work.

 

The original poster is a non starter simply because the intended Tractor isn’t big enough, the Valtra is only an example of how such a crane/pto chipper could work for some, which it does.

 

Always easier to load with an excavator, but plenty of decent inexpensive cameras about to give the operator a better view now.

Yup, next step up from an Arb digger for mechanisation 👍🏻