We are mugs in this country

[James TTS]

[Squaredy]

Personally I think fuel is a very good way of raising tax revenue.  My problem is with the way that money is then spent more often than not.  Raising tax through taxing income and business is a very bad way of raising money - it effectively punishes hard work.

 

And the most effective way to make a stand against high fuel prices is to buy less.  I do realise that sometimes this is difficult, but build it into your decision on what vehicle to run, where to live, where to work.  How many people have a fancy gas-guzzler and are now moaning about high fuel costs?  Am I the only person to have noticed that cars and vans are generally way bigger than they used to be?

 

I guess these prices will be a huge push towards electric vehicles.  Maybe this is the real hidden agenda.

[James TTS]

[Cuttup]

I agree some laws will curtail people's rights to protest (The Public Order bill) and they have probably done it in response to groups like XR, and because they anticipate increasing disquiet, which should be a warning of further potential crackdowns.

 

The flip side though, is that, rightly or wrongly, the country was largely shut down for the best part of 2 years and millions were furloughed at 80% of their salary + business grants etc. Therefore how is the government to recoup some of that money if not through tax?

 

Fuel taxes are pretty tough because they aren't means tested, and a lot of people  (and certainly businesses) have no choice but to use fuel.

Windfall taxes may be another way to raise that revenue, which seems to be where the government is headed, but we already see the reluctance or technical difficulties governments face when trying to tax big Globals (e.g.Apple)...

[Retired Climber]

If you don't like the price of fuel, stop buying it (or reduce your usage). Problem solved. 

[Woodworks]

This sort of sentiment was expected and has been prepared for looking at the toughening of laws around our right to protest 

 

Global Banks Privately Prepare for ‘Dangerous Levels’ of Imminent Civil Unrest in Western Homelands – Byline Times

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[Stere]

 

In 5 yrs time will everyone be going about in.....

 

 

 

 

Perfect for cities 

 

Edited May 31, 2022 by Stere

[coppice cutter]

It was largely predicted (but not largely reported!) in the US that one inevitable consequence of Trump being removed from the Whitehouse, by whatever means, would be soaring energy costs worldwide in the following years.

 

Accurate or what!

[coppice cutter]

2 minutes ago, Stere said:

 

In 5 yrs time will everyone  will be going about in.....

 

 

 

 

Perfect for cities 

 

That's the problem with being a genius, you're so far ahead of the rest of the world that in your own era you just seem like a nutter!

[Hodge]

Good luck! I'm paying £.1.43 with my fuel card...get a fuel card!!