Advise on 1st Chainsaw for home use

[Mike Hill]

1 minute ago, Rough Hewn said:

Write something constructive Mike.
I do have a little experience in these matters.

@STIHL GB

 

Your man is a wanker.

 

@roughhewn 

 

Was that constructive enough?

[Stere]

Do think alternating between 2 chainsaws might be worthwile after using a full tank as whilst crosscutting   especially if noodling big rounds across the grain - as this can make chainsaw get very hot.

 

Especially if its  hardwoods like oak etc

 

The chain thing sounds unlikely though maybe issue for larger bars  as more chain to contract?

 

 

 

 

Edited October 9, 2021 by Stere

[Retired Climber]

14 minutes ago, Rough Hewn said:

Write something constructive Mike.
I do have a little experience in these matters.

Pretty much everyone on the forum has experience in these matters. Most of us are (or were) professional chainsaws users with many years of experience. 

 

 

[Rough Hewn]

Do think alternating between 2 chainsaws might be worthwile after using a full tank as whilst crosscutting   especially if noodling big rounds across the grain - as this can make makes chainsaw get very hot.
 
Especially if its  hardwoods like oak etc
 
The chain thing sounds unlikely though maybe issue for larger bars  as more chain to contract?
 
 
 
 

You can check the “play” in your chain easily.
Hold a section of several drive links.
Push and pull them.
New chains have no play, old chains will contract and extend very slightly.
This is caused by the rivets grinding the tie straps, and…..
Poorly maintained chain tension.
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[peatff]

3 hours ago, Rough Hewn said:

A new chain will stretch.
A hot chain will stretch more.
A cold chain contracts.
I’ve had a 361 shown to me with the whole clutch mechanism doing loops.
People who are new to saws often have difficulty tensioning chains.

 

They need to know not to tension the chain while it is hot, snot rocket surgery. I bought a cheap bar for my 036 on eBay and the chain would hardly pull round by hand however slack I had it. The paint in the guide was so thick it was like paste after I ran it and got some oil round it but it was fine after that.

[peatff]

8 minutes ago, Rough Hewn said:

noodling big rounds across the grain

Across the grain is cross cutting, noodling is cutting along the grain horizontal. This clogs the clutch housing up in no time flat. You spend a lot of time planking don't you ? I've not done any but it looks hard on saws and chains.

Edited October 9, 2021 by peatff

[Mike Hill]

Chainsaw chains are a bit of a step back in time as far as drive transmission is concerned.

 

Most chain transfer drive from sprocket teeth directly to the rivets. Chainsaw chain transfers drive to a drive link riveted to the chain.

 

The rivet is fixed , passes through either a drive link or a cutting tooth. These holes wear and all the wear added up plus some warmth "grows" the chain.

 

Probably the do retract fractionally when cold. But bugger all compared to how much the holes wear .

 

I have been Alaskan milling since 1999,and running a saw professionally since 96.

[Stere]

Meant to say against

[Rough Hewn]

Chainsaw chains are a bit of a step back in time as far as drive transmission is concerned.
 
Most chain transfer drive from sprocket teeth directly to the rivets. Chainsaw chain transfers drive to a drive link riveted to the chain.
 
The rivet is fixed , passes through either a drive link or a cutting tooth. These holes wear and all the wear added up plus some warmth "grows" the chain.
 
Probably the do retract fractionally when cold. But bugger all compared to how much the holes wear .
 
I have been Alaskan milling since 1999,and running a saw professionally since 96.

So after accusing me of digging a hole,
then insulting me,
Now you’re agreeing with me…
Been on the juice this afternoon Mike?

[gary112]

8 hours ago, Rough Hewn said:

Get a rag and rub a bit of chain oil on the bar before you use it.
When bedding a new engine in…
Try not to Rev it too much outside of a log.
After each tank of fuel, give it 45-60 minutes to cool.
Keep the chain tensioned correctly.
If it sags after a few cuts,normal for a new chain.
When you’ve retensioned and finished the first tank YOU MUST detension the chain or it will stretch as it cools possibly bending the crankshaft.

Saul what makes you say that not detentioning the chain can possibly bend the crankshaft,cos i,ve never heard or experienced it