Larch price

[topchippyles]

20 minutes ago, billy_wizz said:

Probably because they don't really want to deal in anything less than full artic loads by choice

Not the case they have a builders merchant as well as the wood yard selling to the public.

[billy_wizz]

1 minute ago, topchippyles said:

Not the case they have a builders merchant as well as the wood yard selling to the public.

Ah didn't know that

[Squaredy]

I sell Larch cladding by the square metre, and sometimes Western Red Cedar and Dougie Fir.  I charge £15 per square metre currently.  This is equivalent to £22.50 per cubic foot or £795 per cubic metre.  This is for rough sawn totally unseasoned timber.

 

I think I am fairly pricey, but this is what I need to charge to make it viable for me.

[bilke_user]

On 07/05/2021 at 22:38, Squaredy said:

I sell Larch cladding by the square metre, and sometimes Western Red Cedar and Dougie Fir.  I charge £15 per square metre currently.  This is equivalent to £22.50 per cubic foot or £795 per cubic metre.  This is for rough sawn totally unseasoned timber.

 

I think I am fairly pricey, but this is what I need to charge to make it viable for me.

I am the same, if I'm not getting  at least £750/m3 it's not worth my while milling it.  Folks who don't buy timber from anyone keep telling me I'm too expensive, but when I look at my order book I'm told a different story.  

 

[arcwoodlands]

"So, on to the most problematic thing that is said about home grown timber – especially our spruce: “It grows too fast, making it too low density, and unsuitable for construction”. This, very persistent, myth is a significant barrier to getting more home grown timber in construction, since it leads to perfectly suitable timber being rejected, and habitual over-specification. In reality, ring width, tree growth rate, density and strength are only loosely related. And because people repeat this myth a lot, we have addressed it several times before on this blog"

for more info see Edinburgh Napier Centre for Wood Science and their blog

[Squaredy]

30 minutes ago, arcwoodlands said:

"So, on to the most problematic thing that is said about home grown timber – especially our spruce: “It grows too fast, making it too low density, and unsuitable for construction”. This, very persistent, myth is a significant barrier to getting more home grown timber in construction, since it leads to perfectly suitable timber being rejected, and habitual over-specification. In reality, ring width, tree growth rate, density and strength are only loosely related. And because people repeat this myth a lot, we have addressed it several times before on this blog"

for more info see Edinburgh Napier Centre for Wood Science and their blog

Is it a myth?  I never mill Spruce so can't really comment, but I know UK grown Western Red Cedar is inferior to American grown.

[AHPP]

And WRC grown down here in the West Country can't hold a candle to the stuff I've felled and milled from the Highlands or Morayshire. 

 

 

I can’t wait to for you to move so we can find out how terrible Sweden suddenly is.

 

[trigger_andy]

And WRC grown down here in the West Country can't hold a candle to the stuff I've felled and milled from the Highlands or Morayshire. 
 
It's the lack of a dormant season (mild winters) combined with continuous wind stress (causing compression and tension wood growth, as well as much larger basal diameters) combined with the lack of quality sunlight (causing more substantial branch growth) that gives us our often dodgy quality timber in the UK. 

So the Highland grown Softwood is ok then?

[topchippyles]

1 hour ago, trigger_andy said:

 

So the Highland grown Softwood is ok then?

 

 

[Khriss]

One factor not mentioned is US and Sweden have larger harvesting operations than UK,  so bulk = better timber quality selection and lower price, and price seems to be the point here. K

 

(  basically shit trees DO grow in US and Sweeden, but they can be choosey with their volume output year on year) 

 

PS I know fvvk all abt milling 😉 K