The woodsure scheme, do we need it?

[Stubby]

33 minutes ago, Paul in the woods said:

The article is a bit one sided. The law hasn't banned wet firewood, someone could still buy some lovely kiln dried wood and keep it somewhere wet. You can also cut your own of course.

 

I think you really must make clear than most cheap pin based moisture meters will measure on a dry basis so anything under 25% dry basis is fine to burn. It's about time Woodsure made this far clearer.

Exactly .

[Dan Maynard]

Hi, it's us again (or rather, it's Lauren - I'm the content writer at white horse energy). 
 
Bit of an update. Here is a short article about 'Ready to Burn' and the wet firewood ban, published in a magazine as a freelance piece of writing. All the information should be relevant and up to date, but this particular version of the article was confirmed for publication a while ago so it may lack a few points (let me know if you feel I've missed something out). 
 
See page 70 of this publication - a boating magazine of all places, but still relevant! A more in depth version about this will also appear on our website eventually. Apologies about the blurriness!
 
There's so much information to take in on the HETAS website so I hope this condenses it a fair bit. 
~ Lauren.
 
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M Towpath Talk - 24/06/2021  

I'm afraid I got a bit stuck at the first sentence because it is factually wrong and sided to the advantage of those selling kiln dried wood.

This type of writing isn't going to help clarify the situation, it's the kind of writing that leads to the "ban stoves" conversations.

[log on tommy]

I've finally got round to registering with woodsure, its a complete farce but there we go. As far as the complaints procedure is concerned, did most of you just copy a standard template of the web?

I put my prices up at the beginning of last season, something I don't particularly like doing, but with the extra admin, insurance and not to mention the subscription I can't see any way of avoiding putting them up again. At least this time I can pin the reason for the price hike on the bureacrats!

[Vedhoggar]

2 hours ago, log on tommy said:

I've finally got round to registering with woodsure, its a complete farce but there we go. As far as the complaints procedure is concerned, did most of you just copy a standard template of the web?

I put my prices up at the beginning of last season, something I don't particularly like doing, but with the extra admin, insurance and not to mention the subscription I can't see any way of avoiding putting them up again. At least this time I can pin the reason for the price hike on the bureacrats!

What percentage increase did you feel was necessary to cover costs related to Woodsure?

[log on tommy]

4 hours ago, Vedhoggar said:

What percentage increase did you feel was necessary to cover costs related to Woodsure?

I reckon about 7%

[doobin]

Prepare to be undercut by every man and his dog 🤦‍♂️ Customers don’t give a damn about Woodsure. I know a bloke locally processing a fair few tons a year- own tractor, trailer and processor and does around ten loads a day during the season. He said to me, ‘**************** em, I’m not registering’. I do maybe twenty loads a year to locals in the village- I won’t be either. 

[log on tommy]

1 hour ago, doobin said:

Prepare to be undercut by every man and his dog 🤦‍♂️ Customers don’t give a damn about Woodsure. I know a bloke locally processing a fair few tons a year- own tractor, trailer and processor and does around ten loads a day during the season. He said to me, ‘**************** em, I’m not registering’. I do maybe twenty loads a year to locals in the village- I won’t be either. 

It doesn't seem to happen round here, I sell out every year and have to buy in wholesale just to keep selling. 

[Stubby]

I was talking to one of my mates who sells a long pickup load ( single cab ) for £95 .  His wood will be the same as it always has . No one complains and it burns fine . If they suddenly want to see some kind of ticket they can go elsewhere . I very much doubt any one will though .   

Edited August 9, 2021 by Stubby

[nepia]

1 hour ago, doobin said:

Prepare to be undercut by every man and his dog 🤦‍♂️ Customers don’t give a damn about Woodsure. I know a bloke locally processing a fair few tons a year- own tractor, trailer and processor and does around ten loads a day during the season. He said to me, ‘**************** em, I’m not registering’. I do maybe twenty loads a year to locals in the village- I won’t be either. 

The exact words of a guy near me doing between 200 and 300 tons a year - **** 'em!

[nepia]

29 minutes ago, Stubby said:

I was talking to one of my mates who sells a long pickup load ( single cab ) for £95 .  His wood will be the same as it always has . No one complains and it burns fine . If they suddenly want to see some kind of ticket they can go elsewhere . I very much doubt any one will though .   

Spot on on every point.  The wood was good, it is good and it will continue to be good; paying a quango a ludicrous amount to do the same as ever is pointless and ain't happening here.   As clear as the nose on one's face it's a money-making exercise and no more