Lockdown - has it totally failed?

[eggsarascal]

The far right racist thug (Boris Johnsons words) that thought it was ok to take a pee next to the memorial of a murdered police officer was asked in court this morning "why were you in London" he replied "to defend statues" , the magistrate asked "which statues and what do they represent" his reply... wait for it, he didn't know. Moron.

[Youngstu]

6 hours ago, donnk said:

right..... just like all Muslims are terrorists because they goto a mosque.

 

Lots of folk in the photo NOT doing the roman salute, but hey don't let your prejudice get in the way of facts.

Most Muslims go to a mosque for religious purposes.

The football lads alliance, Tommy Robinson's supporters went to these demonstrations for a scrap (and to get pissed up with other right wing thugs. Some undoubtedly went to peacefully defend the already covered statues from people that had said they weren't coming anymore, but they probably weren't getting tanked up, fighting with the police or pissing where they shouldn't.

Unfortunately as soon as it was announced that "proud, patriotic Englishmen" we're going to protect the statues, it was inevitable that this would happen. 

[Johnsond]

54 minutes ago, Youngstu said:

Most Muslims go to a mosque for religious purposes.

The football lads alliance, Tommy Robinson's supporters went to these demonstrations for a scrap (and to get pissed up with other right wing thugs. Some undoubtedly went to peacefully defend the already covered statues from people that had said they weren't coming anymore, but they probably weren't getting tanked up, fighting with the police or pissing where they shouldn't.

Unfortunately as soon as it was announced that "proud, patriotic Englishmen" we're going to protect the statues, it was inevitable that this would happen. 

Unfortunately too may see patriotism as a dirty word. The English flag is derided as virtually a racist emblem to some. The balance and level of debate etc etc has long since passed the point of being reasonable. As for mosques and the activities of a minority within them, well the crimes committed in the name of Islam By extremists are well documented. To be honest this is a pointless back and forward debate. You obviously think anyone who doesn’t defer and apologise for any historical wrong doing is racist. I’m totally proud of the UK I have no guilt for being white. I’ve been around the world enough to know there is good and bad everywhere in all colours. 
The phrase right wing thugs etc makes me laugh in reality. If they were extreme right what were the previous weekend’s activities referred too ??? 

[Haironyourchest]

Maybe the far right thugs were planted by the far left? You know, to cause trouble and make the right look bad...I mean, that's what the left accuse the right of when they riot, isn't it?

[Mark J]

19 hours ago, Johnsond said:

Unfortunately too may see patriotism as a dirty word. The English flag is derided as virtually a racist emblem to some. The balance and level of debate etc etc has long since passed the point of being reasonable. As for mosques and the activities of a minority within them, well the crimes committed in the name of Islam By extremists are well documented. To be honest this is a pointless back and forward debate. You obviously think anyone who doesn’t defer and apologise for any historical wrong doing is racist. I’m totally proud of the UK I have no guilt for being white. I’ve been around the world enough to know there is good and bad everywhere in all colours. 
The phrase right wing thugs etc makes me laugh in reality. If they were extreme right what were the previous weekend’s activities referred too ??? 

Unfortunately the British flag has been hijacked by nazis. Which is a shame, as tarnishing everyone who like flags or religion as a nazi, terrorist or a nonce isn't fair.

You think this is a pointless back and forward debate. They were doing nazi salutes. If you're really proud of our flag you should be taking it off the fascists, not giving it to them.

 

[Haironyourchest]

How do propose we take back our flag? (We as in "you guys" - I'm Irish, but you get the idea)

[Khriss]

Ooooo getting a bit 'handbaggy'   lets sit in a calming grove of woody perennials. K

[Khriss]

22 hours ago, Youngstu said:

Most Muslims go to a mosque for religious purposes.

The football lads alliance, Tommy Robinson's supporters went to these demonstrations for a scrap (and to get pissed up with other right wing thugs. Some undoubtedly went to peacefully defend the already covered statues from people that had said they weren't coming anymore, but they probably weren't getting tanked up, fighting with the police or pissing where they shouldn't.

Unfortunately as soon as it was announced that "proud, patriotic Englishmen" we're going to protect the statues, it was inevitable that this would happen. 

Oddly, i didnt see the ad calling for ' Proud heavy drinking fat blokes from Southend with poor parenting skills and no bladder control ( and who would shit themselves at the first mortar bomb on a real battlefield) to protect inanimate objects with names they cannot spell'........ Tho i have stopped reading the Daily Sport,  K

Edited June 16, 2020 by Khriss
( still bit deaf in left ear from the 105mm in 2006 tho')

[felixthelogchopper]

8 minutes ago, Khriss said:

Oddly, i didnt see the ad calling for ' Proud heavy drinking fat blokes from Southend with poor parenting skills and no bladder control ( and who would shit themselves at the first mortar bomb on a real battlefield) to protect inanimate objects with names they cannot spell'........ Tho i have stopped reading the Daily Sport,  K

I expect the Walter Mitty Hunting Club could have found a few candidates down there.

[Johnsond]

3 hours ago, Mark J said:

Unfortunately the British flag has been hijacked by nazis. Which is a shame, as tarnishing everyone who like flags or religion as a nazi, terrorist or a nonce isn't fair.

You think this is a pointless back and forward debate. They were doing nazi salutes. If you're really proud of our flag you should be taking it off the fascists, not giving it to them.

 

Mark seriously bud don’t ever presume to tell me what I should be doing or how I should conduct myself ok. As in all cases the actions of a minority tarnishes the majority. You judged everyone by the actions of a few. 
Did you ever serve in or attempt to join HM forces ?. That’s a genuine question by the way as I’m still trying to work out where all this angst for anything British or even slightly right of centre etc comes from. They were not all doing the salute you mention, they are all not fascists are they, just as all the previous weekend’s culprits were not too blame etc etc etc. You are probs one of the most extreme on here in regards views and politics Mark, but ive yet to attempt to label you in any way shape or form, something you often do at the slightest opportunity. 
 

Edited June 16, 2020 by Johnsond