Lockdown - has it totally failed?

[Squaredy]

UK is possibly experiencing the highest death rate from Covid 19 in the world.  34,500 deaths from a population of 66 million.

 

Sweden have a death rate way lower per head of population (367 per million - UK 517 per million) and have no lockdown.

 

Is our lockdown actually helping?  Would we be better off advising people to take sensible steps and avoid mass gatherings like they do in Sweden, or are we just too stupid in the UK to actually be sensible?

 

Is the lockdown causing more health problems than it solves?  E.g. bowel cancer screening (2nd biggest cancer killer in UK) has all been paused.  My mum would be dead now if it were not for her bowel cancer being spotted early in 2012.  Feel for the poor guys who submitted a sample to bowel cancer screening and have been advised they need further investigation, but that is also now on hold.  Bowel cancer must be caught early, so delay can be lethal.

Edited May 17, 2020 by Squaredy

[Steve Bullman]

1 minute ago, Squaredy said:

or are we just too stupid in the UK to actually be sensible

yes

[woodwizzard]

Can't see how it was ever a proper lock down and is nothing like one now. All the death numbers they throw about seem pretty pointless. What would the true figure be if it wasn't a notifiable disease, 1/2, 1/3, who knows.

[waterbuoy]

Sadly I agree completely with Steve - many in the UK are too self-centred to look at the bigger picture. 

[Johnsond]

4 minutes ago, woodwizzard said:

Can't see how it was ever a proper lock down and is nothing like one now. All the death numbers they throw about seem pretty pointless. What would the true figure be if it wasn't a notifiable disease, 1/2, 1/3, who knows.

Agree 

it was never a full on effective lockdown ?‍♂️I’m up in Aberdeenshire and regardless of what shite sturgeon is putting out about Scotland vs England or believing her own propaganda there most definitely isn’t one in place up here neither. 

[trigger_andy]

We should consider the Swedish population density compared to the UK.

 

25 people per km2 versus 250 as a UK average and in England its 430 per km2. Even Scotland which many consider to be quite empty has a population density of 70 per km2. 

 

But saying that in Stockholm this will be vastly different. 

 

In the UK have gotten so used to havinng every aspect of our lives governed for us that when the government actually give clear direction, but one that needs us to use our own common sense meany simply cant cope and melt down. Is the answer more regulation or less? 

 

I dont think Lock-downs been that great a success. Those that will die of C-19 will still die of it in the future, some due to age, some due to lifestyle choices. And as you mention we could well b killing more in the long run by the drastic cutting back of other screenings, deaths that could have easily been avoided, as opposed to deaths that have just been delayed a little. And in that short delay they have to live like prisoners with no social interaction or family time. 

 

 

Personally Im all for Herd Immunity but controlled in such a fashion that hospitals can cope with the steady influx. The Media have demonised it though, and the vast majority of the population is now petrified about leaving the house, backed up with getting paid virtually the same to sit around at home. 

[Alex O]

Our restrictions have eased a little now in NSW, as of Saturday, so kid’s play areas are now open and up to 10 people in a cafe or restaurant. This is our phase 1 out of 3 so only time will tell. Most have been pretty good here in Sydney and followed the guidelines.

[waterbuoy]

7 minutes ago, Johnsond said:

Agree 

it was never a full on effective lockdown ?‍♂️I’m up in Aberdeenshire and regardless of what shite sturgeon is putting out about Scotland vs England or believing her own propaganda there most definitely isn’t one in place up here neither. 

And it has become even less so in recent days.....

 

We have had two families arrive in our village (west coast) this weekend to stay at their second homes.  The Community Council have asked them to quarantine for two weeks, by which time they will probably have to head south again if the schools reopen.  Still, they can self isolate/quarantine indoors now that the weather has finally broken!

 

Even read of one muppet who travelled from New Zealand to Skye to self isolate - wtf is that about?

 

Author's 12,000-mile lockdown trip to Scots island

WWW.BBC.CO.UK

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Good Omens author Neil Gaiman travelled from New Zealand to "isolate" on the island of Skye.

 

[tree-fancier123]

how many thousand miles of text about covid has there been on social media? - 890,000 miles of font size 10

 

[trigger_andy]

48 minutes ago, waterbuoy said:

And it has become even less so in recent days.....

 

We have had two families arrive in our village (west coast) this weekend to stay at their second homes.  The Community Council have asked them to quarantine for two weeks, by which time they will probably have to head south again if the schools reopen.  Still, they can self isolate/quarantine indoors now that the weather has finally broken!

 

Even read of one muppet who travelled from New Zealand to Skye to self isolate - wtf is that about?

 

Author's 12,000-mile lockdown trip to Scots island

WWW.BBC.CO.UK

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Good Omens author Neil Gaiman travelled from New Zealand to "isolate" on the island of Skye.

 

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