Covid-19

[woodwizzard]

Makes you realise how close flu and covid are and how flu is more dangerous to children.

 

Which is Officially More Dangerous: Covid 19 or the Flu?

 

I have since March 2020, described covid-19 as a disease which can be compared with the flu – but which has been blessed with better marketing. Right from the start I described it as the flu rebranded. It appears that no specific organism has been isolated for covid-19 and what is described as covid-19 has very similar symptoms to the traditional varieties of the flu, and it has been proven to have a similar mortality rate.
These days I get attacked if I stand up, sit down or breathe and so I have, naturally, been widely attacked by everyone with plenty of opinions but no medical training for daring to tell this simple truth.
So, let me put this nonsense to bed once and for all by taking a close look at a report published by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in the US fairly early on in this hoax.
I think that even the most rabid and rancid pro-vaxxer at the BBC – and at the last count there were 22,000 of them gorging themselves at our expense - will have to accept what the CDC says is the truth – particularly when it has tried to help us identify the differences between the two disorders.
First, let’s look at what the CDC says about signs and symptoms.
Well, with the flu the symptoms are a cough, shortness of breath, fatigue, sore throat, runny nose, muscle pains, body aches, headache and sometimes vomiting and diarrhoea. The symptoms can be mild. Or they can be more serious. And there are, of course, a whole host of other symptoms which can appear.
And with covid 19?
Well, covid 19 may cause cough, shortness of breath, fatigue, sore throat, runny nose, muscle pains, body aches, headache and sometimes vomiting and diarrhoea. The symptoms can be mild. Or they can be more serious. You can also get a change in loss of taste or smell, though that can happen with the flu too. The mechanisms may be different but the result is the same.
No real difference there, then.
Second, how long do symptoms appear after exposure:
Well, with the flu, two, three or four days can pass between someone becoming infected and experiencing symptoms.
And with covid-19? Well, the symptoms will develop two, three, four or more days after being infected.
So, not a lot of difference there either. And, remember, I’m quoting the CDC in America.
Third, how are these diseases spread?
Well, the flu appears to be contagious for about a week or so after symptoms appearing.
And with covid-19, well a person with this infection could be contagious for ten days.
Fourth, how does the CDC say these infections spread?
Well, the flu is spread between people who are close to each other. The flu is spread by coughing or sneezing or talking. It may be possible to get infected by touching a surface which is infected.
And covid-19? Ah, well covid-19 is spread by coughing, sneezing or talking. And again it may be possible to get infected by touching a surface which is infected.
Again, not a lot of difference there, then.
And this, let us not forget, is a disease with a mortality rate similar to the mortality figures for the flu. Fifth, what are the complications which can occur with the flu.
The CDC lists pneumonia, respiratory failure, sepsis, acute respiratory distress syndrome, cardiac injury, multiple organ failure, worsening of chronic medical conditions, inflammation of heart, brain or muscle tissues and secondary bacterial infections.
And with covid-19? Well, the complications are pretty much the same though the CDC says that covid-19 patients may also develop blood clots but that can happen with flu patients – especially if they stay in bed too long. Both flu and covid-19 can leave patients with residual symptoms, of course: long flu and long covid.
Sixth, which of these illnesses can cause serious diseases?
Well, flu can cause severe illness – particularly in older people, people with certain underlying medical conditions and in pregnant people. They really do say that by the way: pregnant people.
And covid 19 can cause severe illness – particularly in older people, people with certain underlying medical conditions and in pregnant people.
And both infections can cause serious problems in infants and children with underlying medical conditions.
But here there is a difference between the two disorders.
Covid-19 can cause a rare complication called multisystem inflammatory syndrome in school aged children.
But the risk of complications for healthy children is higher for flu compared to covid-19.
I’ll say that again because this is the only really significant difference that the CDC reports.
The risk of complications for healthy children is higher for flu compared to covid-19.
So, it is perhaps not true to say that flu and covid-19 are much the same.
Because, although most people won’t be surprised to learn that the two disorders are pretty well identical in most significant ways, the flu is more dangerous for healthy children than covid-19.
So, there is yet more proof that we shouldn’t have shut down the world for covid-19.
We didn’t shut down the world in 2019 when the flu was much commoner than it is today – and in all those previous years when it was killing up to 650,000 worldwide in a six month flu season.
Indeed, today the flu has pretty well disappeared – possibly because the identical symptoms mean that flu victims are being diagnosed as covid-19 victims.
However, the only safe conclusion from all this solid, scientific evidence from the CDC is that the lockdowns, the social distancing, the hospital department closures, the masks and the vaccines were and are entirely unnecessary.

 

Similarities and Differences between Flu and COVID-19

WWW.CDC.GOV

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Know the common symptoms of flu and possible complications. It can cause mild to severe illness, and at times can lead to death.

 

[Johnsond]

Sitting watching Panorama “ Cashing in on Covid”. Total and utter piss take of the highest order. The total hysteria this generated from day one has been shamelessly exploited to fleece billions from the taxpayer. 

Edited March 15, 2021 by Johnsond

[sime42]

Sitting watching Panorama “ Cashing in on Covid”. Total and utter piss take of the highest order. The total hysteria this generated from day one has been shamelessly exploited to fleece billions from the taxpayer. 

My thoughts entirely. Cronyism of the highest order. I caught the tail end of the program.
"" As the government refuses to reveal the full details of all its so-called VIP deals....."" - and we don't even know the full extent of the fleecing yet because they not being open and honest with us again.

[Ty Korrigan]

On 14/03/2021 at 15:48, woodwizzard said:

Published: 22:05, 13 March 2021 | Updated: 08:09, 14 March 2021

It is one of the world’s most prevalent and widespread infections. No, not Covid-19 – the Epstein-Barr virus, which ‘lives’ silently in about 95 per cent of us.

Most people will never know they carry it, as it rarely causes any problems.

It’s spread via saliva, and is so contagious that most of us pick it up in early childhood. Sharing cutlery will pass it on, as will children who share each other’s toys.

But if we contract it later, as adolescents or young adults, Epstein-Barr can cause an illness: glandular fever.

As we age, the immune system develops, and this means it fights harder against the virus when coming into contact with it for the first time, leading to symptoms that can be debilitating. There’s the overwhelming fatigue, a high fever, a painful throat and swollen neck glands. Teens and students can be ill for months, sometimes unable to sit exams or study.

Regardless of when we pick up the virus, it stays with us for life – lying dormant in our immune cells for reasons scientists don’t yet fully understand.

So why are we talking about it now?

Well, a year after the start of the coronavirus pandemic, experts have made an intriguing discovery: blood tests on some sufferers of long Covid are coming back positive for ‘reactivated’ Epstein-Barr.

Around one in ten people who are hit by Covid end up as ‘long-haulers’, according to the Office for National Statistics, with some experiencing ongoing fatigue, breathlessness, muscle pain and brain fog for many months. For some, it has been longer than a year. The condition and its causes remain a mystery. Do the new findings mean some are actually suffering from a form of glandular fever? Doctors just don’t know.

But if it does hold true, it could have startling implications, opening up new avenues in treatment.

While most of us would test positive for antibodies to Epstein-Barr virus if we were given a blood test, these would be of a type that indicates the virus is there, but dormant.

Tests carried out on long Covid patients are recording another type of antibodies, ones that suggest that the virus has ‘woken up’ and the body is responding by fighting against it.

 

Feck...

I should be driving to Morocco.

 For a month now I have been struggling with fatigue.

Monday I went to the doctor's, authorised a next day blood test after a 12 hour fast. Results next day by email to both doctor and I.

Called back in for an urgent consultation as soon as doctor received results.

Another blood test and next day ecography on my giblets.

Good news, I don't have anything serious chewing on my liver or pancreas. I have however tested for Epstein Barr virus which has affected my liver function and caused this malaise.

I did have glandular fever as a teenager which wiped me out for months.

Now our Moroccan trip is on hold, likely not at all.

 I feel better being active without exertion.

   Stuart

 

 

 

Edited July 18 by Ty Korrigan

[Ty Korrigan]

I was thinking there is no way I can continue working until 67 feeling this tired everyday.

I do have a tendency to overcook it whilst running the ground but I've not felt the same since the COVID vaccination and COVID itself.

Now I need to focus on removing some stress in my life including moody subbies and clients who micro-manage or fuss.

  

 

 

 

[GarethM]

Whilst not sounding like a tin foil hat wearing type, get them to check you're vitamin D.

 

Known a few people that did the whole Dubai thing, too hot for outside work or that covered up they all seemed to not get enough vitamin D.

 

Know a few people here, even though they walk the dog it's working from home and away from sunlight. Same for most of us in safety gear, arms and face are mostly covered.

[Steven P]

similar vein, I'd always encourage colleagues in the office (or specially working from home) to take a lunchbreak away from the desk, outside even if it is just to eat an ice pop or moan about the winter weather. That small amount of sun, small amount away from the work is very important

[Mick Dempsey]

3 hours ago, Ty Korrigan said:

 

Feck...

I should be driving to Morocco.

 For a month now I have been struggling with fatigue.

Monday I went to the doctor's, authorised a next day blood test after a 12 hour fast. Results next day by email to both doctor and I.

Called back in for an urgent consultation as soon as doctor received results.

Another blood test and next day ecography on my giblets.

Good news, I don't have anything serious chewing on my liver or pancreas. I have however tested for Epstein Barr virus which has affected my liver function and caused this malaise.

I did have glandular fever as a teenager which wiped me out for months.

Now our Moroccan trip is on hold, likely not at all.

 I feel better being active without exertion.

   Stuart

 

 

 

That’s a bit of a bugger.

Never heard of it, till now.