Wood burners: Most polluting fuels to be banned in the home

[arboriculturist]

WOOD BURNERS: MOST POLLUTING FUELS TO BE BANNED IN THE HOME.

 

Most polluting household fire fuels to be banned

WWW.BBC.CO.UK

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Owners of wood burners and open fires in England will be discouraged from burning house coal or wet wood.

 

Latest headline from the BBC as above.

 

So it looks like someone looked in a 'stock' woodburner manual that says " only burn sub 20% MC hardwood in your woodburner" and decided that this must be what the English population should be burning.

 

So what's the plan ? :

 

A   Import container loads of kiln dried from Russia ?

B   Import container loads of kiln dried from Latvia and neighbouring countries ?

C   Roll out more taxpayer funded RHI subsidies to individuals to kiln dry in England ?

 

The plan being to save the planet from global warming.

I see no evidence based data to quantify the 20% MC threshold.

 

I don't think I have missed anything.

 

 

Edited February 21, 2020 by arboriculturist

[trigger_andy]

More Scaremongering from the Press. 

 

Will still be allowed to purchase 2 cubes of wet/green wood at a time. How many folk buy more than this in one go? If they do they Im sure they could have the load split over a few days, nudge nudge wink wink.  

 

I thought the proposal/law says sub 25%? Thats easy to achieve with Air Drying in the UK. 

 

Apart from the fact its gonna be neigh impossible to police I cant see it making much difference to anyone. 

[Woodworks]

It's a great system. We carefully kiln our logs to below 20% and get them delivered ASAP to tick a box. Then the customer pops them in the shed and they go back up to 22%-24%. Lots of fuel is wasted and some jobsworth will make a few bob off our backs to check our compliance. Sounds perfectly in line with our governments thinking. 

 

I thought you were kilning these days?

Edited February 21, 2020 by Woodworks

[Acerforestry]

3 hours ago, Woodworks said:

It's a great system. We carefully kiln our logs to below 20% and get them delivered ASAP to tick a box. Then the customer pops them in the shed and they go back up to 22%-24%. Lots of fuel is wasted and some jobsworth will make a few bob off our backs to check our compliance. Sounds perfectly in line with our governments thinking. 

 

I thought you were kilning these days?

I couldn't agree more. Another crack pot government incentive based on no common sense at all, a bit like Smart motorways...oh, Christ don't get me started

[SimpleSimon]

3 hours ago, trigger_andy said:

More Scaremongering from the Press. 

 

Will still be allowed to purchase 2 cubes of wet/green wood at a time. How many folk buy more than this in one go? If they do they Im sure they could have the load split over a few days, nudge nudge wink wink.  

 

I thought the proposal/law says sub 25%? Thats easy to achieve with Air Drying in the UK. 

 

Apart from the fact its gonna be neigh impossible to police I cant see it making much difference to anyone. 

I thought it banned sales of amounts under 2 cube?

[woody paul]

4 hours ago, arboriculturist said:

WOOD BURNERS: MOST POLLUTING FUELS TO BE BANNED IN THE HOME.

 

Latest headline from the BBC as above.

 

So it looks like someone looked in a 'stock' woodburner manual that says " only burn sub 20% MC hardwood in your woodburner" and decided that this must be what the English population should be burning.

 

So what's the plan ? :

 

A   Import container loads of kiln dried from Russia ?

B   Import container loads of kiln dried from Latvia and neighbouring countries ?

C   Roll out more taxpayer funded RHI subsidies to individuals to kiln dry in England ?

 

The plan being to save the planet from global warming.

I see no evidence based data to quantify the 20% MC threshold.

 

I don't think I have missed anything.

 

 

On the lunch time news they first said open fires then started talking about wood burners. 

What ever the out come there will be a loop hole. 

[spudulike]

Well I have just measured the logs I am using and they were between 12-15%

I am now having to spray them with water to meet the governments guideline of 20% ........or am I missing something

Who actually burns wet logs anyway

[kevinjohnsonmbe]

Just realised this is kind of running in the "making the news today" thread so I'll pull this over here since it's better suited here:

 

Just had a look at Woodsure certification.  That'll be £500 for registration (plus travelling costs for site visit) and then £385/year for annual audit.

 

So with BSL, ENPlus, BSENISO 17225 part 2 and now Woodsure how many different 'industry certifications' can 1 product actually attract?  Each with a corresponding financial penalty attached of course.

 

And then there's the CONFOR consultation response which is available to read (via a few click throughs) here:  

 Arboricultural Association - Buy local, burn local - and buy ready-to-burn firewood 

WWW.TREES.ORG.UK

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Did she really accuse DEFRA of being "...forestry phobic..." in section 38?  That's going to be a great help I'm sure....  

 

Think I'll just ignore it all and crack on as normal with sustainably sourced, well stacked and air dried firewood. 

[arboriculturist]

4 hours ago, Woodworks said:

It's a great system. We carefully kiln our logs to below 20% and get them delivered ASAP to tick a box. Then the customer pops them in the shed and they go back up to 22%-24%. Lots of fuel is wasted and some jobsworth will make a few bob off our backs to check our compliance. Sounds perfectly in line with our governments thinking. 

 

I thought you were kilning these days?

All our roundwood is pre-dried in stacks, then processed into IBC's where it is left to air dry. Totally agree with your comments, just look how the MC has risen in sub 20% over the last 4 1/2 months of rain!

[trigger_andy]

I thought it banned sales of amounts under 2 cube?

What sense would that be?