Uk holly is this a shrub or tree

[gary112]

Yep same here, tree

[Big J]

Came across a corker of a holly today in Ashclyst Forest. About 32 inches in diameter at chest height and 60ft tall. In a copse with lots of other oversized hollies and cherries too.

[Yournamehere]

Away with this shrub nonsense: it's a tree.

[john k]

It’s a tree, but in woodland often grows like a weed and needs to be controlled. What are the circumstances of the woodland TPO?

[AJStrees]

I think like anything it can be grown as a shrub but in the wild it grows as a tree when it is old enough. 

 

Don't have any TPOs where I work so never been an issue. But it certainly comes in many forms. 

 

I think what John says would be a good starting point. What are the circumstances of the TPO....

[Dbikeguy]

Was actually reducing a 100ft long hedge/tree holly today at the gf’s dads. TPO covers the big beast in the middle - prob 24” ish at waist height and taller than the oaks and syc’s also on TPO’s and old. tree officer was fine for me to knock 20ft out of the rest of it to let some light in (did a crown raise and thin last year)
Anything i need a chainsaw to cut is tree in my book!

[Chris at eden]

6 hours ago, MattyF said:

As mark says a TPO covers any woody plant so wether it’s a tree or shrub is irrelevant..you can’t touch it end of ... unless you have obtained written permission.

Where did you get that from?

 

Woodland TPOs cover trees and tree saplings, not woody plants.  Shrubs, climbers and managed hedges are not covered whichever classification you use.  

 

[Chris at eden]

9 hours ago, Chris at eden said:

Where did you get that from?

 

Woodland TPOs cover trees and tree saplings, not woody plants.  Shrubs, climbers and managed hedges are not covered whichever classification you use.  

 

By the way, I would consider holly to be a tree if left to grow unchecked so no reason it cannot be protected. Just to be clear. 

 

[MattyF]

Where did you get that from?
 
Woodland TPOs cover trees and tree saplings, not woody plants.  Shrubs, climbers and managed hedges are not covered whichever classification you use.  
 

Interesting because I’m pretty sure I was told the exact opposite when I studied tree law.
Are blanket TPO’s and woodland TPOs different things just to clarify?

[Gary Prentice]

Very different animals. Area TPO covers what's there at date of order, woodland what's there and what grows after