Srt useage

[Pete Mctree]

1 hour ago, David Dobedoe said:

The issue of rescue provision not really being in place is an industry problem. Working as a subbie I had a young  'rescue climber' on one job and I thought it would be good to let him do a little climbing as we had the time and he needed to build up more experience and I could drag brash. It was a straight forward easy climb.  He simply couldn't get sorted and into the tree. Not even close. He had a rescue ticket, so ticked the box on the paperwork but incompetent. Its simply unacceptable. I have no problem helping or teaching people how to do things and develop but as I understand it rescue provision / planning is a legal requirement and something that needs to be taken more seriously by many in the industry. (Rant over) And yes I did raise the issue with him and his boss!

 

 

Unfortunately, in the case of major trauma in a tree, that is time critical, you are on your own in the real world. If you cannot descend immediately then chances are your fecked!! 

I am more conscious of first aid qualification & management as that is where lives can be saved.

[geoffers]

Bulldog bone and a 60m cougar orange [emoji521] rope for srt and a zig zag and 45m blue tongue for ddrt. Generally try to srt as much as possible as its soooooo much easier.

[Rough Hewn]

So does anybody explain base anchors etc to newer groundies if you are using then?

No they don't.
Please explain.

[jfc]

I use normal RW and HC set up with teufulberger fly rope. For my anchor point I just started using a cambium saver with a carabiner instead of the large ring, so I can advance it. It seems to retrieve fine so far. Only use srt on big trees really though.

[Tommy_B]

3 hours ago, Rough Hewn said:

No they don't.
Please explain.

I meant that if you were subbing for different firms, going through base rescue systems and explaining how the components work for groundies who may not be familiar would be a good idea.

[jones]

21 minutes ago, Tommy_B said:

I meant that if you were subbing for different firms, going through base rescue systems and explaining how the components work for groundies who may not be familiar would be a good idea.

Not a chance.  When I get to site its all systems go.  I wouldn't be comfortable with a groundies ability to safely use a rescue system based on a quite walk through.  Needs to be a practised element

[Tommy_B]

4 minutes ago, jones said:

Not a chance.  When I get to site its all systems go.  I wouldn't be comfortable with a groundies ability to safely use a rescue system based on a quite walk through.  Needs to be a practised element

Sorry, maybe I was typing quickly and didn't get what I meant across. 

I agree that it needs to be a practised act and needs to be well oiled. I wouldn't recommend just showing someone something for a couple of minutes and hoping for the best. 

 

Do you always work with the same guys mate?

[jones]

No, flutter between a few different companies, working with people of mixed abilities.  If I had the same groundsman every day I would be more inclined to spend time teaching them

[Ian young 41]

I've just done my climbing course a couple of months ago and in all honesty it only touched on srt...but listening to people on here it seems to be the way ahead .it summit I'd really like to learn more about and practice if given the chance .

[Steve Bullman]

It certainly has its place Ian. It wasn’t for me personally, not for a one size fits all system at least