Srt useage

[Tommy_B]

Does anyone do introductions to climbing systems in the initial stage when working with new groundies or different firms? 

[MattyF]

Not unless they ask or I am in a preaching mood and they are pretending to listen

[Tommy_B]

10 hours ago, MattyF said:

Not unless they ask or I am in a preaching mood and they are pretending to listen

Haha. I was thinking about potential aerial rescue situations. I've seen some groundies who look confused at the prospect of a different rake so the thought of a Unicender or complicated base anchor might be too much. Didn't know how subbies would deal with it if they're moving through different teams a lot

[stihlmadasever]

5 hours ago, Tommy_B said:

Haha. I was thinking about potential aerial rescue situations. I've seen some groundies who look confused at the prospect of a different rake so the thought of a Unicender or complicated base anchor might be too much. Didn't know how subbies would deal with it if they're moving through different teams a lot

Reality is some firms dont provide a rescue climber.Ive had more than a few instances where ive turned up at the job to be greeted by a guy with practically no experience as a groundie never mind run riggin or have a rescue ticket.

 

[Gary Prentice]

TBH, unless the rescue climber can actually climb proficiently, and didn’t just pass a course some time in the dim and distant past, you’re probably best trying to sort the situation yourself.

 

Even in practice, some lads adrenaline is so high they can’t even open a carabiner cos theyre shaking so much.

[Old Mill Tree Care]

TBH, unless the rescue climber can actually climb proficiently, and didn’t just pass a course some time in the dim and distant past, you’re probably best trying to sort the situation yourself.

This!
The reality is that unless the groundie climbs regularly, there’s no hope.
Besides which, in the event of a chainsaw cut, if you can’t get yourself down in less than a minute, there’s no hope.

[Tommy_B]

So does anybody explain base anchors etc to newer groundies if you are using then?

[Steve Bullman]

8 minutes ago, Tommy_B said:

So does anybody explain base anchors etc to newer groundies if you are using then?

Can’t even get mine to learn a clove hitch!

[Joe Newton]

22 minutes ago, Tommy_B said:

So does anybody explain base anchors etc to newer groundies if you are using then?

If you're tied in twice when the accident occurs its a moot point anyway. 

[David Dobedoe]

The issue of rescue provision not really being in place is an industry problem. Working as a subbie I had a young  'rescue climber' on one job and I thought it would be good to let him do a little climbing as we had the time and he needed to build up more experience and I could drag brash. It was a straight forward easy climb.  He simply couldn't get sorted and into the tree. Not even close. He had a rescue ticket, so ticked the box on the paperwork but incompetent. Its simply unacceptable. I have no problem helping or teaching people how to do things and develop but as I understand it rescue provision / planning is a legal requirement and something that needs to be taken more seriously by many in the industry. (Rant over) And yes I did raise the issue with him and his boss!