How long before moving to SRT

[Mick Dempsey]

Why didn’t you just spike up with a flip line?

[Mick Dempsey]

2 minutes ago, kevinjohnsonmbe said:

I'm not climbing so much these days but went to help out a nearby crew last week on a tall Oak take down.  That was enough to make me want to make the change to something less demanding than prussiking.  Quite emotional, especially in the heat, T shirt was wringing by the time I'd got up the tree!  Just not sure it's worth the course and the kit for the amount I might use it now....  

Why not spike up with a flip line? Can’t get easier than that.

[MattyF]

3 hours ago, stihlmadasever said:

It annoys me when people say ddrt is unergonomic...hip thrusting on a prussik is, but i can use a knee ascender on a footloop and a ct foot ascender on ddrt with a zigzag.

Thats as ergonomic as srt 

Ive tried srt- well ive fannied around with it- but i dont do big trees that often so my kit mostly lies in the lockup gathering dust.It definetly has its merits and if your getting on a bit and i can see how you would think it assists your ascent but ddrt with the system ive described above is just as ergonomic..so there 

If your knackered ascending up then may i suggest the use of a wonderful invention called a ladder...very ergonomic

I hate ladders , I hate how much room they take up, untying them , securing them ,positioning them and working off them, get good with a throw line and climb SRT and dont look back. 

Its not about acsent so much with SRT either working a tree gets so much easier with complete loss of friction from branches that a single rope gives , swings and branch walks are a breeze and there is no way a double rope is more ergonomic....take downs easier for tying off  on stems I could go on but with your mind shut to it that it’s a waste of time and a double ropes easier I’m wasting my time! No one could convince me either , I hated SRT and thought it was for benders when I first tried it but it was one of those things that I realised once I started properly using it I would never give up.

[Joe Newton]

Why didn’t you just spike up with a flip line?

Good point. I dont use srt for dismantles, generally. I dont particularly "use" ddrt either. I use my spikes, the ddrt system is there but it's not my means of ascending.

Srt is great for target pruning, deadwoods, reductions etcetera.

[Khriss]

SRT is definately better - it also requires a lot of thought , it does seem more effiecint but I cannot say why , however it will work on every job and yr running through the ropes as you move around the crown is definately easier K

 

( Plus Ground rescue is possible - as we demonstrated on friday )

[MattyF]

SRT on dismantles is mint joe , I love spiking and the slack falling through the wrench and hitch climber , you can always be secure with a retrievable tip tie on a fat stem with out leaving pegs , just pull the tail and it slides down so you can knock another section out , so much easier than setting a rope guide up and you can set it at any point... safer as well if you need to bail out.

[Steve Bullman]

1 minute ago, MattyF said:

SRT on dismantles is mint joe , I love spiking and the slack falling through the wrench and hitch climber , you can always be secure with a retrievable tip tie on a fat stem with out leaving pegs , just pull the tail and it slides down so you can knock another section out , so much easier than setting a rope guide up and you can set it at any point... safer as well if you need to bail out.

It has its advantages for sure.  I wish I could gel with it like a lot of you guys have

[josharb87]

I started experimenting with SRT 7or 8 years into climbing, it took about 2 years before it suddenly clicked (using SRT primary for access then swapping to ddrt, then the occasional prune on the way up, then, one day, the whole tree)

 

Small trees and felling is still ddrt. 

 

All self taught, i don't think SRT climbing is any quicker (after crown access-SRT is way quicker) but i have far more energy and can do far more big trees per day!

 

 

 

 

[Joe Newton]

SRT on dismantles is mint joe , I love spiking and the slack falling through the wrench and hitch climber , you can always be secure with a retrievable tip tie on a fat stem with out leaving pegs , just pull the tail and it slides down so you can knock another section out , so much easier than setting a rope guide up and you can set it at any point... safer as well if you need to bail out.

I just hate tying bowlines with a long tail!

[MattyF]

It has its advantages for sure.  I wish I could gel with it like a lot of you guys have

Bin the ladders mate and then you have no choice ! I think that’s how I got to grips with it , kept getting long walks with the ladders and thought maybe I should use that rope wrench thing I brought years ago and sat at the bottom of my kit bag.