Whats your multione loader doing today ?

[Mick Dempsey]

No it can’t rotate infinitely, only to 90 degrees (the Klou fixed grab)

The BMG knockabout seen earlier in the thread will  turn till the hoses pinch.

[AHPP]

No it can’t rotate infinitely, only to 90 degrees (the Klou fixed grab)
The BMG knockabout seen earlier in the thread will  turn till the hoses pinch.

Does the Klou have stops to protect the hoses?

[Mick Dempsey]

Yes.

[AHPP]

Yes.

Could you get a picture of what the stops look like please.

[Mick Dempsey]

Ok, I’ll have a go tomorrow. 

[dumper]

3 hours ago, jwl28 said:

Thanks Mick! I am currently deep in my mini loader research phase and your contributions (and everyone’s) are very helpful 👍👍 There are so many out there I seem to discover new brands/models every day. The MO 4.2 is ranking highest at the mo, still a small size/width/weight but with more grunt than the avant 420…

Don't belive what they tell in the literature most time they are a bit deluded and definitely exaggerate the abilities of the machines get one on demo work out what you want to lift and try it all ways, at an angle and with the steering at full lock, all pivot steer Loaders lose vast amounts of capacity if not straight

Edited January 25, 2022 by dumper

[doobin]

7 hours ago, dumper said:

Don't belive what they tell in the literature most time they are a bit deluded and definitely exaggerate the abilities of the machines get one on demo work out what you want to lift and try it all ways, at an angle and with the steering at full lock, all pivot steer Loaders lose vast amounts of capacity if not straight

I agree with what you said re the brochure weights- demo one first. Tipping capacity is very different from realistic operating capacity.

 

MultiOne (and Avant as far as I know) don't loose that much capacity when at an angle. As the centre joint only pivots sideways rather than oscillating in the other plane as well (as a dumper or other loader brands do), the rear is always counterbalancing the front. You can even use this to your advantage when wrestling with a big lump on a slight slope, by steering to put the weight where you need it. This joint is what makes a M1 feel unsteady to a beginner, as it'll often lift a wheel. But once you've a few hours under your belt, it's instinctive.

 

As an example, the quoted lifting capacity for that M1 4.2 is 820kg straight with weights, or 700kg fully articulated with weights.

Edited January 26, 2022 by doobin

[Mick Dempsey]

Lifting capacity,  whilst important, isn’t the be all and end all, an operator with some experience can move a piece of wood or drag a branch from a to b using different methods.

In Arb very little is known weight, if it lifts it, it gets lifted.

 

 

[dumper]

1 hour ago, doobin said:

I agree with what you said re the brochure weights- demo one first. Tipping capacity is very different from realistic operating capacity.

 

MultiOne (and Avant as far as I know) don't loose that much capacity when at an angle. As the centre joint only pivots sideways rather than oscillating in the other plane as well (as a dumper or other loader brands do), the rear is always counterbalancing the front. You can even use this to your advantage when wrestling with a big lump on a slight slope, by steering to put the weight where you need it. This joint is what makes a M1 feel unsteady to a beginner, as it'll often lift a wheel. But once you've a few hours under your belt, it's instinctive.

 

As an example, the quoted lifting capacity for that M1 4.2 is 820kg straight with weights, or 700kg fully articulated with weights.

The difference between 820kgs and 700 kgs is 14.5 % if the tax man took that off you would be very upset it’s the deference between easily moving a builders bag of ballast and tipping over these figures are ideal tyres on hard surface level fat operator in the seat full tank off fuel etc multione always went on about tipping capacity rather than actual operating capacity this was the reason I bought Avant. 

[woody paul]

I found watch large Loaders moving big lump of stone on YouTube very educational on driving a loader they make very slight turning movements so not to bting rear weight forward tip over.