How much to rent your yard

[Vespasian]

There was field adjoining our smallholding, well it was part of our smallholding, sold to the gypsies for which they were forever grateful..

 

Soon enough there was a caravan park on it, but some years later they lost their appeal and they left an sold up..

 

The field was bought by my sister for her horses, pretty soon the site was turned into a stable yard, with adjoining field.. and soon after her son decided it would make a perfect site to do his wheeling and dealing, selling his scrap, or second hand cars..

Looked like a scrapyard more than a stable yard.. the council came down, complained and made him change his ways..

Which he did For a time anyways...

He gets a bit of grief here and there but mostly he just plows on regardless, I don't know how he does it..

 

I think the councils given up on him, as his car business has grown, with even more cars on site, he does tidy up here and there.. but I don't think he gets much grief from the council no more..

 

The moral of the story is, buy your patch of land, and do what you want, the council will give up before you do if your determined..

 

Least ways it seems that way to me..

[R5log]

But what if you spend x amount of £££ and a load of money making it usable then you get found out and stuck with a piece that's not fit for purpose?

 

 

Take a gamble

[R5log]

Take a gamble

 

 

Don't pee your neighbours off

And keep it tidy, no reason to have shite every where

[aspenarb]

Planning law works in a slightly different way, you are basically guilty until you prove your innocence. You are not actually guilty of anything in the councils eyes until infringements of planning law are brought to their attention ,you then have to prove you are doing nothing wrong. Nothing wrong would then constitute ten years of continuous use of a commercial activity or four years for a dwelling without any enforcements or stop notices being issued. Once proven a lawful use certificate will be issued but the emphasis is on the applicant to prove the case and not the councils to disprove it. With that in mind you can see the need to tow the line and not to piss off the locals. As R5log says get on with it and keep your head down, screen the site from prying eyes and keep the place locked up at all times.

 

Bob

[Rhystree]

I keep out growing yards which are very hard to find in My area. So in July I move into a four acre small holding with a house. I've chosen this site as there's very few neighbours about. Three of which are a farm and two warehouses. It's tucked out the way in leafy Surrey. My plans are to chat to the neighbours who are about 750m-1km away and get a good planning consultant on board. Lots of landscape thought in regards to planting of screening and native trees, soil bund, bat boxed, bee hives etc. I think I'm going to submit my plans to the council though before I do anything. Or I could end up majorly out of pocket. I've sat in on Parish council meeting as casually chatted to them who couldn't foresee any problems. But until the app. goes in who knows?

Has anyone got experience in getting change of use from AG to commercial land?

[Chris Day]

I bought mine after three years of looking, it's not ideal 2/3 acre in a small industrial estate with houses on two sides across the road. However by doing a bit of free hedge cutting and providing free conifer logs on demand we have about fifty pairs of yes within a hundred metres watching the place. Only one lady nearby works nights and a quick text giving two days notice allows to runs saws and log splitters all day even on a Saturday without an eyebrow raised.

 

I looked for rural out of the way stuff but this experience has steered me away from that, it's how you play your neighbours that is the big thing. However I could have a massive dickhead move in and kill the log splitting days.

[donnk]

I keep out growing yards which are very hard to find in My area. So in July I move into a four acre small holding with a house. I've chosen this site as there's very few neighbours about. Three of which are a farm and two warehouses. It's tucked out the way in leafy Surrey. My plans are to chat to the neighbours who are about 750m-1km away and get a good planning consultant on board. Lots of landscape thought in regards to planting of screening and native trees, soil bund, bat boxed, bee hives etc. I think I'm going to submit my plans to the council though before I do anything. Or I could end up majorly out of pocket. I've sat in on Parish council meeting as casually chatted to them who couldn't foresee any problems. But until the app. goes in who knows?

Has anyone got experience in getting change of use from AG to commercial land?

 

Definitely get specialist advise BEFORE talking to the council. If I was you I'd just crack on and see what happens. If your not putting up buildings I cant see you having any issues at all. Drop £1000 on a specialist ag planner, not just a run of the mill planner. Ring up a couple local builders and ask them who they use.

[Rhystree]

Cheers for the info. There's an old pole barn and stables and some Paddocks. I'm wanting to hardcore and road plane about 1 acre and put up a few barns. It's a massive financial commitment. I'm going to keep my current yard whilst it all going on in the back ground though. I run about 7 vehicles and 6 staff so we will definitely get noticed on the site. It's tricky for us Arb's it seems forestry is a lot easier with planning.

[oldwoodcutter]

Yes it's imperative to get a yard well away from neighbours houses and moaning Minnie's.

If I made a habit of revving saws up or running the chipper up in my house yard, my neighbours would be on the blower like a flash to every government body known,except perhaps the coastguard.

[Mick Dempsey]

Cheers for the info. There's an old pole barn and stables and some Paddocks. I'm wanting to hardcore and road plane about 1 acre and put up a few barns. It's a massive financial commitment. I'm going to keep my current yard whilst it all going on in the back ground though. I run about 7 vehicles and 6 staff so we will definitely get noticed on the site. It's tricky for us Arb's it seems forestry is a lot easier with planning.

 

Not advocating deception or anything, but couldn't an arborist business masquerade as a forestry one?