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My two have been instructed, if anyone ever hits them, to tell the teacher and then tell us. The second time, tell the teacher again, and us. The third time, they are to break their assailant's nose.

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I was shy and introverted at a rough secondary school. I suffered 4 years of torment and bullying. Nobody stood up for me or protected me. I did not however consider self harm or suicide, but it was dammed rough during those 4 years.

Then I escaped to the Tech and it was much better, and I enjoyed a more normal adolescence. But the effect of those years of torment and abuse never really left me during most of my adult life.

I tried martial arts at Uni with a  mate, but was totally useless at it. 

Then I joined the OTC and actually enjoyed myself.

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30 minutes ago, peds said:

My two have been instructed, if anyone ever hits them, to tell the teacher and then tell us. The second time, tell the teacher again, and us. The third time, they are to break their assailant's nose.


Why not encourage them to nip it in the bud and smack the bully in the face first offence?

 

Bullies pick on the weak.  If your kids show they are not weak then they are less likely to be a victim.

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4 minutes ago, Rich Rule said:


Why not encourage them to nip it in the bud and smack the bully in the face first offence?

 

Bullies pick on the weak.  If your kids show they are not weak then they are less likely to be a victim.

Again, easy to say.

Some 14 year old boys are as big as men, others still boys.

I saw a kid get a fearful hiding from a big lad for fighting back, whereas if he’d covered up and backed down he’d probably of escaped the worst.

 

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24 minutes ago, Rich Rule said:


Why not encourage them to nip it in the bud and smack the bully in the face first offence?

 

Because in my opinion it can be better to give the benefit of the doubt and allow an opportunity for a peaceful resolution. Violence begets violence, until it doesn't. 

 

My dad worked in the violent and mental kids department at whatever schools he worked in over his 40 years in education, he would be sent the snarling, spitting, swearing students whenever they got a bit too much for their teachers. His most successful technique for turning the lives around of the bullies, psychopaths, no-hopers, and punchbags-at-home was to teach them how to use chopsticks. Just lifting a bowl of dried peas, one at a time, into another bowl. He would occasionally gift them a set of funny round dice, still numbered one to six, but spherical. They were weighted inside, so still landed on a random number reliably. 

 

For a lot of them, it would be among the first sign of patience, compassion, or kindness that they'd ever seen in their short but miserable lives. Victims themselves of neglect, abuse, domestic violence, born into broken homes with no prospects for escaping.

For decades after, he would have random people come up to him in the street, thanking him for his understanding, for setting them on the right track. Happened loads of times when I was younger, out in town with him.

 

Anyone can throw a punch in retaliation, and sometimes it's needed. But a kind word can often carry more weight, and stands a much greater chance of breaking the cycle.

 

 

That lad who threw a chair at me (and every other kid in the class, there was no favouritism here), Paul Frost his name was. My dad gave him a pair of spherical dice.

 

I wonder where he is now. 

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17 hours ago, sime42 said:

Anyway, dragging this back on topic. I'm sure there'll be plenty of bullying occurring if and when the new Trump administration starts. Much of it by the demagogue himself.

 

 

 

Yes indeed. It will be gratifying.. Retribution cometh.

 

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54 minutes ago, sime42 said:

Ok. Go on then - who is it that deserves retribution, and what for?

 

Depends who you ask, I suspect from Trump the answer will appear to me to be "Everyone and for everything". Suspect there will be a strict pecking order, Biden might be up there for the audacity to win an election fairly, the various judges ruling in the sex assault cases will be moved on, New York City bringing court cases and bigly big fines. Suspect they will be in the top 5. Suspect Russia for invading Ukraine or Gaza / Israel will be a lot lower down on the 'list'

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