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Thanks both- the ag sector is pretty tight money wise, less than £25k isn't abnormal, and that's what I'm on now. I've no ambition to be making silly money, but as others have said, I'm looking for that sweet spot between satisfying work and a decent wage.

Good Morning All.

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Good morning Arbtalkers 😊 Another sunny day ahead 😎

Morning all, Blue sky here. Back to hedge trimming today. Yawn yawn. Bread and butter domestic.

£25k is basically minimum wage. So I wouldn’t class that as really decent money. All depends on your financial circumstances so everyone is different. I came from a £40k a year salary when I switched. Which I thought was decent money. But that had a ceiling. Was impossible to earn more than that. This industry doesn’t have a ceiling. But it does have a cellar. If you’re self employed and can’t find work then you could earn **************** all. the point is there are easier ways to make money. As I think someone stated earlier you could earn £25k stacking shelves. So don’t get into this industry thinking you’re going to be making £100k a year. If you want them lofty sums go be a bricklayer…apparently…

Dame Stella Rimington. James Whale.

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I run a setup not dissimilar to the one shown.Here the chip stays onsite 90% of the time,the versatility of a tracked machine with a drawbar and winch is unrivaled .

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I think this deserves an answer. Someone on here must know. All the ads I’ve seen say ‘competitive salary’ or the like.

Beginning to think tinnitus is compulsory on this thread!

Good Morning Even better with good news. Cheers Doug. Tinnitus - yes. Between long term exposure to machinery noise and motorbikes without ear protection. The whistle is always there. Sometimes loud, other times not. Tried different remedies. Nothing works. Do wear hearing protection now, too late but it won't get worse. Have a solid day.

Morning Pete, my tinnitus is bad when I stress, the bodies in alert mode I believe. Off out to tidy up after Floris.

Yea . I have it all the time . A sorta high pitched hiss but my brain tunes it out . If I stop and think about it its there . At night trying to get to sleep its most noticeable .

Morning all . Clear sky so chilly start . No storm here .

I'm in, anyone else get tinnitus? That loud it woke me up! Bill, Din, Cite.

The 3.5 tipper and grab has near to zero payload. The only (legal) task I see them performing seems to be cemetery work, placing the headstone in position. Those little tracked chippers are popular ‘tis true. I cannot fathom why in all honesty, considering their price.

Morning all. Well Floris didn't come to much at all for us, no call outs. Achieved a lot in the yard instead, serviced the chipper, saw tlc, kit admin, we weren't idle. One domestic windblown job came in for this morning, Oak against a house. Have a good one folks.

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the legendary John Otway doing "house of the rising sun" in his own unique way.

I see the 2 in 1 out immigration deal with France/EU starts tomorrow!

The proven recipe of Arb tipper and 6" road tow is difficult to argue with for general arb work. Good coin can be made with a 20 year old transit and venerable TW150 However, how others roll is often of interest and a talking point. I started with a Kangoo and 3m caged trailer with a wee chipper and rapidly proving Dempsey right when I outgrew it. One tool that gets the French aroused is the 3.5t tipper fitted with a grab. They sell them here for €25k ! Wee chippers have a very strong following. In fact two of my 3 subby climbers run medium vans, caged tippers and wee chippers. Both use their vans for private use, not earning enough to justify a separate family vehicle. I doubt Mrs Accountant will go there but a 7.5t hook loader with an 8" tracked chipper would work well for me. Attached image lifted from a discussion on a French arb group.

Again I something similar, I use a quad bike and a flail mower, the advantage being the quad bike has other uses about the place, trailer towing, dragging etc.

Next day was red hot too. Went to see the eucalyptus collection at Marks Hall. Limped round like I'd had my coccyx removed. Fond memories.