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You could try Clark forest

The laws may well be different . Digested cake sludge is spread on arable ground regardless, under licence and each field soil sampled .

I agree , and have already said that the rate doesn't sound enough on this particular job. Piece rate does work better, providing the rate is fair, harder you work, more you earn, nothing wrong with that. No , the boys on the harvesters are just operators, only overheads are own vehicle. lodge/caravan, although some companies are throwing truck and fuel card into the deal now to attract good operators. £60-70k is easily earned sitting on a machine now.

Tbh all t Tbh all the work I do on piece pays a better return than hourly/day rate.Providing the rate is fair for the work it is the best way of working. We are talking about self employed cutters/ contractors working within an industry that has worked that way for a hundred years or more, why change it , it works ? There are boys earning towards £80/90k a year on harvesters on piece rate, not too bad really.

I agree £12/hour isn't a lot,and tbh the 20p per piece doesn't sound a lot either. However, I suspect you are new to this , and heres the crunch...the timber is bought on a price per tonne,and sold at a price per tonne, so , to get the timber to roadside there is a cost of cutting and extraction. So much a tonne for cutting, likewise for extraction. If you are on an hourly or day rate you have to be cutting enough to justify that rate, otherwise you are being subsidised from the extraction rate. The whole forest industry works on cost per tonne, consequently piece rate. What I don't agree with however is that cutters should be working on a low rate because the timber is of low value, their sweat is worth the same whatever they are cutting. The last cutting I did, which was a few weeks ago, was £30/hour.

I always think planters are under valued .

£18-£20 dependent on distance, quantity, amount of specs. etc. Realistically the extraction rate shouldn't vary much between harvester cut and hand cut , although more log would be stacked by harvester.

£12/tonne if its a clearfell block, more if its a thinning. If its a block that has a lot of edge trees that need wedging etc. you would need to increase the rate.

As already has been suggested use hemp core rope, it will just fall flat if it snaps. I drove D4s for a number of years with hysters with no guarding. There were never any problems with the correct rope.

It would have to be Igland every time for me. Personally I don't rate rope feed out,, always found a well set free spool drum better to use, you can go at your pace rather than that of the winch.

Yes there is truth in it, that's where the best figure is. Back in the day a lot of them were grubbed to get as near the root as possible.

D+G forestry run two, almost full time for AWJ. There are also a couple based in Maryport chipping imported timber.

You could try Peter Lord forestry, Grantham. Failing him AW Jenkinson.

Could they be accessed with a whole tree chipper and artics ?

Looks like an 1164 ? If its together its not expensive.

Vastern timber are worth a try.

3 drums for skyline, some have an extra drum for a lightweight strawline to get the mainline rigged. Igland 4000 are rated 4 ton bare drum, obviously this decreases as the drum fills,that is 4 ton pull, doesn't mean it will pull 4 ton weight though., I have owned a couple of mounted sets over the years. I also worked an igland 8000 with oversize drums mounted on a 360 on highlead work, very disappointing.

What will the carriage run on, do you have a separate winch for the mainline?

I agree. I have done a couple of large scale brash lifts in recent months, the chipper was looking for 14-16 walking floors a day , compared to 100t/hour + on Roundwood.

I think it needs to be felled before you can decide on anything, shake is rife in Turkey oak , and it would only be fit for the chipper if that's the case.

Certainly in some areas of the country there has been encouragement to plant a proportion of natives on clear fell conifer sites. There has also been encouragement in some parts to remove conifer from native stands ,traditionally it was a planting method used to encourage growth for a better final crop. However, we have a need for timber , and growers want a return, Sitka, Corsican , Douglas etc is planted because that's what the market wants. In fairness to the FC they have done a lot of trial planting back down the years to see what suits ground conditions , climate etc. Over the past 45years that I have been in the industry I have seen a lot of changes, the move away from bandsaws to automated mills being one of the big ones,whereas it used to be a case of bigger the better for bandsaw mills that is no longer the case. Traditionally the private estates planted for the next generation, I know of quite a few very large forests that are being clear fell harvested that were planted within my time in the industry, so 45 years. I worked through the DED in the mid 70s, certainly there was more activity around getting things done. There were a lot of controls on timber movements outside of the dormant period,and it was policed. However , they were trying to control the spread of a beetle, very different to the situation with Ash, as we all know. We only need to look at the spread of disease in Larch to realise how futile any attempt at control would be.

I have just extracted some from one of those estates. Are you looking for some in that area ?

Was the harvester or processor head ?

Short of having all the functions wired up separately with solenoids etc and a heap of switches. it wouldn't work, which would cost more than what it would to fit the computer.

I ran one for a number of years , it had the Duncan cab fitted as standard.